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Amidst all of the conversations about the recruitment of Black educators, where are the discussions about retention? The Exit Interview podcast was created to elevate the stories of Black educators who have been pushed out of the classroom, main or central office. The podcast asks guests to share their education journey, the "last straw" that made them decide to leave education, and, most importantly, what they are doing now that they have left the traditional education sphere.
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Black Educators Matter: Project 500 Podcast

Danielle Moneyham and Brooke Brown

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Our goal is to share the stories of 500 Black Educators. We will celebrate the impact and achievements, lean into the joy and lament, and highlight the important roles that educators play in our lives. www.blackeducatorsmatter.org The Movement: Black Educators Matter is a nonprofit organization designed to create an ecosystem for Black educators globally. Through engagement and podcasting, we will document our stories and harness our collective power to enact change and make excellence equit ...
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In this episode of The Exit Interview, hosted by Dr. Asia Lyons, Julia Berry shares her transformative journey from wanting to be a teacher, doctor, and dancer as a child to becoming an educator focused on diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Julia outlines her path from excelling in math and engineering, realizing her passion for teaching, to t…
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In this episode of The Exit Interview, Dr. Asia hosts Langston Jacobs, a Black male educator who shares his journey and the challenges he faced as a dean of culture in a charter school. Langston discusses his strategies for creating a supportive school environment, the impact of his role on his own mental and physical health, and the significant ef…
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In this episode of 'The Exit Interview,' host Dr. Asia Lyons talks with therapist and researcher Jason Shankle about the importance of creating sacred spaces and emotional boundaries, particularly for Black educators facing racial battle fatigue. Jason shares his journey in education and psychology, and offers practical strategies for coping with r…
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In this episode, Dr. Asia Lyons hosts Asha von Liebtug, an inspiring educator from New Jersey, who shares her journey from student to teacher and beyond. Asha delves into the impact of her grandmother's influence, her teaching experiences in various educational settings, and her passion for curriculum development. She emphasizes the importance of c…
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In this episode of 'The Exit Interview' podcast, hosted by Dr. Asia Lyons, Dr. Adrienne Smith shares her compelling journey as a Black educator. From humble beginnings working in fast food to overcoming hurdles in her pursuit of higher education, Dr. Smith details her experiences teaching in diverse environments, including Alaska. She highlights th…
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In this episode of 'The Exit Interview,' hosts Dr. Asia Lyons delves into the often-overlooked aspects of early childhood education with guest Brittney Carey. We discuss the crucial role of early education, the challenges Black educators face in ECE, and the systemic issues that affect the retention of dedicated teachers in this field. Brittney sha…
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In this episode of 'The Exit Interview,' I sit down with Vanity Jenkins, a dedicated educator and advocate for culturally relevant pedagogy. We dive into Vanity's journey from sports management to education, her experiences teaching in the Mississippi Delta, the challenges Black educators face, and the importance of historical context and systemic …
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In this episode, of the Exit Interview, host Dr. Asia Lyons speaks with Sherinda Bryant, a former educator, about her journey and experiences in the field and love for Afrofuturism. They delve into the challenges faced by Black educators, the need for supporting Black students, and the creation of Bryant's Afrofuturism Discovery Academy. The conver…
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“Ms. Stampley was my inspiration…” Barbara Bennett Reading Interventionist, Pre K, K, 1st - 3rd "I had the best teachers." This week we are joined by Ms. Barbara Bennett, a dedicated reading interventionist with a background in Pre-K - 3. Growing up in Clarksdale, Mississippi, Bennett was highly inspired by her teacher, Ms. Stampley, and experience…
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“I’m overjoyed that our kids now have these opportunities.” Wil Page Climate Justice 6th Grade Math/Science "It was joyful," says Wil Page, reflecting on his journey as a 6th-grade science teacher with 16 years of experience. Growing up in Los Angeles, he navigated the complexities of being the only biracial child in his class. Inspired by his unap…
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This episode of The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators takes a deep dive into the rarely discussed aspect of educator retention, specifically focusing on the Black educators who leave traditional education spaces. Featuring Jalisa Evans, a former teacher turned advocate, this powerful discussion uncovers the challenges, systemic issues, …
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In celebration of Mental Health Month, Stacey Taylor-Brandon is back on The Exit Interview to talk about how her work supporting mature Black women was birthed out of her own desire to heal from the racism-related stress and racial battle fatigue she experienced as administrator and social worker in a Denver Area School District. Listen as she disc…
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“This is our Selma Bridge.” Dr. Qiana O’Leary https://drqianaoleary.com/ www.minty-es.com "A glorious, glorious journey." #Shoutout to the storytellers. This week, we sit with Dr. Qiana O'Leary, CEO, Founder, and Owner of Minty Educational Services, as she reflects on moments of joy and pain throughout her 27-year career. Starting as an instruction…
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Join us in this insightful episode of 'The Exit Interview' as we welcome Benita Gordon, a passionate educational advocate. In a candid discussion with Dr. Asia, Benita shares her journey from considering a career outside of education to embracing her calling as a teacher influenced by her family's legacy in teaching and the transformational impact …
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Dante Plush Director of Youth Engagement, Comedian IG: @DanteFlush “We need to address these educational barriers that are stopping our kids outside of school from getting a good education inside of school.” “What is there to be scared of?” Dante Flush, Director of Youth Engagement, says he has the best job in the world as he supports and listens t…
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In this episode, Dr. Asia Lyons interviews Brittany Dawson, discussing the pivotal moments that led Brittany from the classroom to becoming a leadership coach. They explore the challenges faced by Black educators, the emotional and financial hurdles in the teaching profession, and the transformative decision to leave traditional teaching roles. Bri…
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“We aren’t looking for allies… we are looking for co-conspirators…” Cecily My-art Cruz 6th and 7th English Teacher, President, United Teachers Los Angeles https://utla.net/contacts/cecily-myart-cruz/ “All I knew was Black educators showing us Black excellence on a daily basis.” In this episode, we had the honor of speaking with Cecily My-art Cruz, …
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“I feel like I found my revolution in teaching.” Rodney Powell School Principal, Founder EdArchy “I want to see free kids have free thoughts.” "In education, we have the power to construct freedom," shares Mr. Rodney Powell, a school principal and founder of EdArchy, as he reflects on his journey and vision for education. His path into education wa…
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In this inspiring episode of The Exit Interview, we have the privilege of hearing from Elia Martin, a former educator and social worker turned grant manager, who shares her transformative journey through education, social work, and beyond. Elia's story takes us from her initial dreams of becoming a dentist to finding her true calling in supporting …
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“We have yet to reckon with the influence of racism and white supremacy in all of our spaces, but especially schools.” Dr. Daman Harris Manager of Higher Education Partnerships, Co-Director BOND Project, Author www.damanharris.com Bondeducators.org Book: The Antiracist School Leader “There have always been people around me that poured into me.” In …
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This episode of The Exit Interview features a deep dive into the experiences and insights of Jailyn Jenkins, a former STEM educator who transitioned into a role supporting Black educators after facing burnout. Jailyn shares her personal journey, highlighting the significance of mental health, the critical need for authentic recruitment and retentio…
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“Each generation has to make sure that the next generation does better.” Dr. Don Parker Educational Keynote Speaker, Author, Former Administrator, Dean and Educator https://drdonparker.com/about/ “I absolutely knew what I wanted to do. I knew what I wanted my future to look like." #Shoutout to the PE Teachers! As a Black male educator, author, spea…
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“Education is like a game, there are rules to the game. Black children, often time, are not given the rulebook.“ Dr. Tracee Perryman CEO / CoFounder of Center of Hope Family Services, Author https://cohfs.org/ “I became energized by teaching children how to learn, how to think.” Dr. Tracee Perryman, CEO/Co-Founder of Center of Hope Family Services,…
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In this episode of The Exit Interview, Dr. Asia Lyons and special guest Dr. Cletis Allen delve into the educational journey of black educators. Dr. Allen, an advocate for culturally responsive literacy instruction and a curriculum development specialist, shares her transition from a classroom teacher to a consultant. Discussing the importance of te…
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“Being an educator is a lifestyle.” Tierra Jones Classroom Teacher (Spanish, World History), Paraprofessional “I get those kids because I was that kid.” Ms. Tierra Jones, a classroom teacher and paraprofessional, emphasizes the significance of representation in education, recognizing her own journey from a skeptical student to a dedicated educator.…
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“My philosophy is to leave people better, coach them to a new level.” Coach Carlos Johnson https://carlosjohnson.org/ "True educating will not start, can not start, until you’ve created an environment for healthy relationships to foster.” Hailing from Detroit, Michigan, with over two decades of experience, Coach Carlos Johnson adeptly bridges the w…
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In this episode, of the Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators Yasha Chapman, an accomplished Black educator and CEO of Elementary Education Evolved, shares her experiences and insights about the challenges faced by Black educators and the importance of retaining them in the field of teaching. Yasha discusses her journey in education, from i…
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“Support the arts… the arts make life worth living.” Dr. Carolyn Sebron, Opera Singer, Educator www.youtube.com/@carolynsebron5567 "Our lives are not restricted to the borders of this country." Step into the vibrant world of Dr. Carolyn Sebron, a renowned opera singer and dedicated educator, as she unveils the transformative power of music and educ…
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“Get Curious” Abdel Shakur 15th year English Teacher, Podcast Host https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/black-teacher-matters/id1542560174 "The essence of humanity…" #Shoutout to the power of our stories. Abdel Shakur is an English teacher with over 15 years of experience, and is the host of the Black Teacher Matters podcast. As he reflects on his…
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In this weeks compelling episode, we speak with Dr. Asia Lyons, CEO of Lyons Educational Consulting, co-facilitator of the Black Educator Wellness Cohort, and co-host of The Exit Interview Podcast. With experiences spanning Detroit to Denver, Dr. Lyons shares her journey, from attending a gifted high school and navigating failure in college, to she…
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“I know I love to read and I know we need to cultivate that in students.” Cynthia Cobb HR Generalist, Training and Development Storytime Anytime 4U "School was part of our family DNA." This week, we engage with Ms. Cynthia Cobb, a nontraditional guest with a rich background in human resources and training and development. Through reflecting on her …
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“We have to leave space for how are you, really? Are you well?” Dr. Asia Lyons CEO, Lyons Educational Consulting Co-Host, The Exit Interview Podcast Co-Facilitator, Black Educator Wellness Cohort “Our stories need to be shared, our perspectives need to be shared. We belong in all places.” In this week’s compelling episode, we speak with Dr. Asia Ly…
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After teaching in Atlanta's public schools Brittni had to make a choice, quit teaching or try her hand at teaching in the Middle East. Take a listen as she shares her experience as an educator both here and abroad, what she feels would improve schools in the United States and what she is up to now that she is back state side.…
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