A gumbo of cybersecurity insights about Data Protection, Data Governance, and Data Backup
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Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ https://www.lsuite.co/
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"The Appalachia Trio" w/ Andy & Pedro
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45:53A&P talk about their favorite things in work, life, privacy, tech, AI, snacks, books and more.
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301: Why AI Fails Without the Right Data (And How to Fix It) – View Systems Inc.
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25:37Joel Christner, CEO of View Systems, talks about why so many enterprise AI projects fall flat—despite powerful models and high expectations. The culprit? Bad or disorganized data. Joel explains how fragmented tools, shadow IT, and poor data hygiene create major roadblocks to AI success. He shares how View Systems built a platform to solve this—stre…
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301: Why AI Fails Without the Right Data (And How to Fix It) - View Systems Inc.
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25:36Joel Christner, CEO of View Systems, talks about why so many enterprise AI projects fall flat—despite powerful models and high expectations. The culprit? Bad or disorganized data. Joel explains how fragmented tools, shadow IT, and poor data hygiene create major roadblocks to AI success. He shares how View Systems built a platform to solve this—stre…
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"The Backyard Dollhouse" w/ Andrew Woods
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48:55A&P are joined by Andrew Woods, the GC of AdTech company PubMatic, formerly of Twitter. Andrew’s origin story can be heard on the 2/22/23 Episode. This conversation focuses on the changing economic model of the internet and AI's massive impact on our future and the future of ads/privacy.
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300: Why Data Classification Might Be Your Biggest Security Risk – Data Management Veteran
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24:08Anand Athavale, Data Management veteran joins to explain why separating regulatory data (like PII) from security-sensitive data (like passwords and keys) is mission-critical. Learn how ransomware’s evolution has blurred roles between compliance and security, and why top-down policy, automation, and AI must reshape your data strategy now.…
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299: Data Storage: The Unsung Hero of Every Crisis You Avoid – Infinidat
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24:13Eric Herzog, CMO of Infinidat, joins The Gumbo to break down the modern enterprise storage landscape—from ransomware resilience and AI integration to CapEx vs. OpEx tradeoffs. From why CIOs still undervalue storage in cybersecurity strategies to the real-world consequences of ignoring performance and ransomware recovery, this conversation dives dee…
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299: Data Storage: The Unsung Hero of Every Crisis You Avoid - Infinidat
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24:12Eric Herzog, CMO of Infinidat, joins The Gumbo to break down the modern enterprise storage landscape—from ransomware resilience and AI integration to CapEx vs. OpEx tradeoffs. From why CIOs still undervalue storage in cybersecurity strategies to the real-world consequences of ignoring performance and ransomware recovery, this conversation dives dee…
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"The Patchwork" w/ Keir Lamont
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46:27A&P chat with Keir Lamont, Senior Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Notably Keir releases updates on a fortnightly cadence on State and Federal Privacy Legislation and is one of the pe…
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298: The Battle for AI Supremacy Isn’t About Models—It’s About Infrastructure - Thunder Compute
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33:32Carl Peterson, CEO of Thunder Compute uncovers how Thunder Computer is redefining GPU utilization by enabling network-attached virtual GPUs—dramatically slashing costs and democratizing access. Carl shares the startup's Y Combinator origin story, the impact of DeepSeek, and how virtualization is transforming AI development for individuals and enter…
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298: The Battle for AI Supremacy Isn’t About Models—It’s About Infrastructure – Thunder Compute
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33:32Carl Peterson, CEO of Thunder Compute uncovers how Thunder Computer is redefining GPU utilization by enabling network-attached virtual GPUs—dramatically slashing costs and democratizing access. Carl shares the startup’s Y Combinator origin story, the impact of DeepSeek, and how virtualization is transforming AI development for individuals and enter…
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297: Preparing for Data Privacy 2.0: What the Experts Aren’t Telling You - ClicData
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24:01Telmo Silva, CEO of ClicData, uncovers the hidden truths about the next wave of data privacy regulations—including the EU Data Act, GDPR updates, and the new AI Act. Telmo shares how smaller SaaS companies can prepare without drowning in legal confusion, how AI is becoming a vital tool for compliance, and why simply knowing Python won’t future-proo…
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297: Preparing for Data Privacy 2.0: What the Experts Aren’t Telling You – ClicData
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24:01Telmo Silva, CEO of ClicData, uncovers the hidden truths about the next wave of data privacy regulations—including the EU Data Act, GDPR updates, and the new AI Act. Telmo shares how smaller SaaS companies can prepare without drowning in legal confusion, how AI is becoming a vital tool for compliance, and why simply knowing Python won’t future-proo…
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296: 5 Trends That Will Separate Data Winners from Losers in 2025 - Yellowbrick Data
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25:27Mark Cusack, CTO of Yellowbrick Data unpacks the evolving data protection landscape. We explore the shift from cloud-first to cloud-optimized strategies, the power of private LLMs, the resurgence of data sovereignty, and how hybrid cloud is shaping enterprise resilience. Mark breaks down the critical role of Kubernetes, data governance, and the gro…
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296: 5 Trends That Will Separate Data Winners from Losers in 2025 – Yellowbrick Data
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25:28Mark Cusack, CTO of Yellowbrick Data unpacks the evolving data protection landscape. We explore the shift from cloud-first to cloud-optimized strategies, the power of private LLMs, the resurgence of data sovereignty, and how hybrid cloud is shaping enterprise resilience. Mark breaks down the critical role of Kubernetes, data governance, and the gro…
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295: How to Turn Your Backups Into Business Intelligence - Eon
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21:49Dr. Assaf Natanzon, VP and Chief Architect at Eon, joins host Demetrius to reveal how modern backups can go beyond storage and recovery to become a true source of insight. Hear how one company uncovered 20,000+ forgotten snapshots—and massive hidden costs—just by switching to Eon. Learn how AI-powered classification, policy-driven protection, and q…
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295: How to Turn Your Backups Into Business Intelligence – Eon
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21:50Dr. Assaf Natanzon, VP and Chief Architect at Eon, joins host Demetrius to reveal how modern backups can go beyond storage and recovery to become a true source of insight. Hear how one company uncovered 20,000+ forgotten snapshots—and massive hidden costs—just by switching to Eon. Learn how AI-powered classification, policy-driven protection, and q…
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"Shout Out to the Cable Companies for Being Patient" w/ Julia Shullman
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39:42The guys are joined by longtime friend Julia Shullman. She’s stepped into a role in the advertising tv space with Telly an innovative company that is also developing an actual TV that si free for consumers, with a transparent data driven ad delivery system attached. The discussion also covers the current TV advertising environment and the dynamism …
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294: Why Cybersecurity Isn’t Just for Hackers Anymore - Aspen Institute
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23:48Yameen Huq, Director of Cybersecurity Programs at the Aspen Institute explores the often-overlooked non-technical skills needed in cybersecurity, the evolving cyber policy landscape in Washington D.C., and the critical importance of aligning cyber investments with real-world business outcomes. From AI-enhanced policy development to economic-driven …
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294: Why Cybersecurity Isn’t Just for Hackers Anymore – Aspen Institute
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23:48Yameen Huq, Director of Cybersecurity Programs at the Aspen Institute explores the often-overlooked non-technical skills needed in cybersecurity, the evolving cyber policy landscape in Washington D.C., and the critical importance of aligning cyber investments with real-world business outcomes. From AI-enhanced policy development to economic-driven …
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293: The Fear Every CISO Has But Rarely Admits - Loreta Today
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25:19Loreta Tarozaite, CEO & Founder at Loreta Today breaks down the human side of cybersecurity leadership. We explore the fear of failure among CISOs, the power of executive presence, and how communication—not just technical skills—is the real driver of trust in the boardroom. Loreta shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, building relationsh…
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293: The Fear Every CISO Has But Rarely Admits – Loreta Today
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25:19Loreta Tarozaite, CEO & Founder at Loreta Today breaks down the human side of cybersecurity leadership. We explore the fear of failure among CISOs, the power of executive presence, and how communication—not just technical skills—is the real driver of trust in the boardroom. Loreta shares insights on overcoming imposter syndrome, building relationsh…
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292: Avoiding Cyber Disaster: Is Your Company DORA Compliant? - N2WS
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22:17Sebastian Straub, Principal Solutions Architect at N2WS, explores DORA (Digital Operational Resilience Act), emphasizing its stringent impact on financial institutions' cybersecurity. He highlights cloud-native backup strategies, cross-region and cross-account backups for disaster recovery, and the critical role of immutable backups against ransomw…
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292: Avoiding Cyber Disaster: Is Your Company DORA Compliant? – N2WS
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22:17Sebastian Straub, Principal Solutions Architect at N2WS, explores DORA (Digital Operational Resilience Act), emphasizing its stringent impact on financial institutions’ cybersecurity. He highlights cloud-native backup strategies, cross-region and cross-account backups for disaster recovery, and the critical role of immutable backups against ransomw…
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291: Cloud Rewind: Because CTRL+Z Doesn’t Work on Ransomware - Commvault
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29:40Govind Rangasamy, Head of Recovery Solutions and VP of Portfolio Marketing at Commvault (via Appranix acquisition), talks about the terrifying reality of ransomware, cyber threats, and the illusion of traditional data protection. With 38,000+ ransomware variants evolving daily, simply backing up data isn’t enough—you need to rebuild, not just recov…
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"Wolves on Steroids" w/ Chris Sands
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32:56Andy and Pedro sit down with Chris Sands, former CMO of the L Suite (TechGC) to discuss his new role establishing a community based recruiting function and executive hiring in general.
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290: Your Old Tapes Might Be a Goldmine for Hackers – Here’s Why! - Insurgo
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21:00Gavin Griffiths, Managing Director and Pat Mayock, VP of Sales at Insurgo dives into the hidden risks of tape storage and destruction. They expose shocking real-world security breaches—like school fingerprint records almost being sold—and discuss why traditional shredding and degaussing aren’t enough. Insurgo’s groundbreaking tech ensures data is t…
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289: The Enterprise Backup Industry’s Worst Nightmare? - S2|DATA
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24:08W. Curtis Preston, aka "Mr. Backup," reveals shocking insights from the world of data recovery. From a million-tape archive stored in a football-field-sized facility to the critical need for reading backup data without vendor lock-in, this conversation uncovers the hidden struggles of IT professionals. We dive into ransomware recovery, AI’s role in…
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"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko
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51:38Andy & Pedro chat with Val Ilchenko, GC/CPO @ TrustArc, one of the leading privacy technology companies. Val helped create and grow the privacy programs @ GoTo and LogMeIn before moving into his current role. The guys chat about the unique fun and challenges of your first leadership role in legal/privacy.…
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288: From Data Chaos to Control: The Future of Cloud Backup - Backblaze
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25:20Gleb Budman, CEO & co-founder of Backblaze, discusses the future of data storage, cloud cost optimization, and resilience against cyber threats. Gleb shares his journey of bootstrapping Backblaze, competing against AWS, and ultimately taking the company public. We explore rising storage costs, AI-driven data explosion, ransomware defense strategies…
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287: The Secret Weapon NFL Teams Use for Game-Changing Decisions! - OSNEXUS
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23:24Steven Umbehocker, CEO of OSNEXUS discusses how businesses can protect critical data with object storage, immutability, and AI-powered automation. He dives into cybersecurity strategies, the role of AI in long-term data retention, and why enterprises must rethink storage for modern workloads. Plus, a fascinating look at how NFL teams leverage data …
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286: CEOs Beware: Ignoring Your Data Could Cost You Everything - The Data Group
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22:24Paul Graeve, CEO of The Data Group, discusses the hidden dangers of poor data management. We talk about why CEOs must take charge of their data strategy, how bad data can derail AI initiatives, and why fragmented data is silently draining company resources. Paul offers practical steps for leaders to regain control, unify their data, and turn it int…
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"M&A, IPOs and Commander's Palace" w/ Kathleen Patton
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43:46Andy & Pedro sit down with Kathleen Patton, a GC who has literally seen it all and done it all in her impressive career. The convo targets some of the biggest issues when leading an IPO and M&A deals, but also touches on her style of confident leadership that all in-house lawyers ought to model and learn from. In addition to her stints inside compa…
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285: Hackers Are One Step Ahead – Can You Recover Your Backups? - DCIG
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28:21Jerome Wendt, CEO & Principal Analyst at DCIG, unpacks the latest trends in data protection. We dive into intermittent encryption, a stealthy new ransomware tactic, and how AI-driven anomaly detection is reshaping cybersecurity. Jerome also shares insights on VMware’s licensing shake-up, the rise of multi-hypervisor environments, and why backup sol…
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284: How to Stay Safe Online: The Growing Risk of Digital Impersonation in 2025 - Memcyco
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19:43Kate Cox, Business Development at Memcyco uncovers the alarming rise of digital impersonation attacks and the role AI plays in making scams more convincing than ever. We discuss how cybercriminals exploit AI to clone websites, steal data, and undermine consumer trust. Kate shares eye-opening statistics, real-world examples, and practical strategies…
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"Looking Forward to the Greenland Data Protection Act" w/ Pedro & Andy
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39:37Andy and Pedro discuss the current climate for tech companies and the impact of an administration change in the US. They also touch on the 2025 outlook for AI tools, privacy laws and how to advise clients in this environment.
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283: How Data Lakes and Deep Learning Are Revolutionizing Cybersecurity in 2025 - DeepTempo
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24:34Evan Powell, Founding CEO of DeepTempo, explores advancements in cybersecurity through the innovative use of Large Log Model (LogLM). He discusses the challenges of securing data amidst increasing cyber threats, the role of platforms like Snowflake in reducing data silos, and best practices for leveraging AI in threat detection. Powell emphasizes a…
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282: Shocking New Tactics Hackers Are Using to Steal Your Identity - Breez Security
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19:40Abhinav Srivastava, Founder and CEO of Breez Security delve into the rising importance of identity security in combating credential compromises and safeguarding cloud and SaaS platforms. Abhinav explains how to use behavioral identity telemetry and AI to enhance detection and response capabilities. The conversation explores persistent security chal…
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281: Your Phone Could Be the Perfect Target -- Here’s Why - Nuke from Orbit
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22:27James O'Sullivan, founder and CEO of Nuke from Orbit explore the hidden dangers of PIN usage and the risks posed when phones are stolen, emphasizing the underestimated security vulnerabilities in everyday mobile device usage. James shares the origin story of his company, born from a personal incident of phone theft, and details how Nuke from Orbit …
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“The Human Dimension: Hiring, Mentoring and Team Leadership” w/ Susan Rohol and Anne Bradley
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1:01:25Andy & Pedro are joined by some great friends and incredible privacy/legal leaders Anne Bradley FPF fellow/startup advisors/founder and former Nike/Hulu CPO and Susan Rohol partner @ Willkie Farr and former Warner/Discovery CPO. We chat about hiring, mentoring and the challenges/rewards of both!
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280: Protecting Backups and Future-Proofing Skills in Containers – IDC
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26:17Johnny Yu, Research Manager, Infrastructure Software Platforms, Worldwide Infrastructure Research at IDC dives into the challenges and strategies for backing up containerized workloads. We explore the evolution of container technology, differences from traditional backups, and the expertise gap in managing Kubernetes-based systems. Johnny discusses…
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279: Connecting AI and DevOps to Solve Modern Workflow Challenges - Jozu
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19:59Gorkem Ercan, CTO and Founding Distinguished Engineer at Jozu, shares insights into overcoming the challenges of integrating AI and ML into DevOps workflows, emphasizing the critical role of immutable artifacts in ensuring trust and efficiency. He introduces KitOps.ml, an open-source project designed to simplify the management of AI/ML artifacts an…
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278: Critical Mobile Vulnerabilities and How to Prevent Them - Appknox
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25:24Subho Halder, Co-founder and CEO of AppKnox, dives into the evolving challenges and trends in mobile app security. He shares insights into protecting sensitive data on mobile applications, addressing issues like man-in-the-middle attacks, insecure coding practices, and fake apps. He emphasizes the importance of integrating security into the Softwar…
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277: Why Business Continuity Plans Often Fail - Strata Identity
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23:21Eric Olden, Co-Founder and CEO of Strata Identity, dives into the challenges and innovations in identity management for multi-cloud environments. He explains the concept of identity orchestration, its role in zero-trust architecture, and the evolution of identity management from SAML to abstraction layers like IDQL and HEXA. Eric also highlights re…
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“I’m Looking for the Trader Joe’s of Law Firms” w/ Rob Morvillo
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52:14Andy & Pedro are joined by a good friend of the pod, Rob Morvillo - Chief Legal Officer @ Olo. The discussion focuses on the in-house lawyer’s relationship with their outside law firm counsel and how this has evolved over time.
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276: When Hackers Hit Your Backups, This One Thing May Save You - Myota
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25:12Gabriel Gumbs, Chief Product Officer and President at Myota, unpacks the unsettling truths about immutability, the evolution of ransomware tactics, and why traditional backup systems are failing in the face of cyber threats. Discover a revolutionary approach to Polymorphic Immutability, designed to keep your data secure, recoverable, and cost-effec…
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275: From Open-Source to APIs: The Critical Decisions Behind SaaS Architecture - Fastbreak RFP
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26:31Peter Bonney, CEO and Founder of Fastbreak RFP, shares his journey in building a scalable SaaS platform for automating RFP responses using AI. Peter dives into the challenges of balancing innovation with the rapid evolution of foundational AI models, the trade-offs between open-source tools and third-party APIs, and the critical architectural decis…
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274: Preventing Breaches Through Smarter Detection Techniques - Vectra AI
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25:49David Brooks, Cyber Security Architect at Vectra AI discusses early adversary detection, the role of AI and machine learning in preventing breaches, and the importance of network traffic analysis. David shares insights into balancing technology and empathy in cybersecurity, the value of layered defense strategies, and advice for aspiring profession…
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"McPrivacy” w/ Alan Chapell
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39:10Andy and Pedro chat with their good friend Alan Chapell, longtime AdTech privacy lawyer and one of the key voices in the overlap between AdTech and competition law.
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273: Critical Attack Vectors Every SMB Must Defend Against - Dropsuite
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22:33Mark Kirstein, Chief Product Officer at DropSuite discusses the evolving cyber threat landscape, particularly how SMBs are increasingly targeted by cybercriminals. He explains the rising importance of data protection and the critical role MSPs play in helping small businesses safeguard essential information. Mark shares insights on new attack vecto…
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272: Protecting the Next Generation of AI: Backup Challenges for Large Language Models - IDC
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23:44Phil Goodwin, IDC’s Research VP, explore the challenges of backing up AI environments, focusing on large language models. Phil highlights the limitations of traditional backup methods for dynamic AI systems and the industry's push for genuine AI-driven data protection. We discuss the roles of companies like Dell, Commvault, Rubrik, and Cohesity in …
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