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Jim and Drew break down the animation world frame by frame, until you get the singular picture. If you love Disney animation, Pixar, and the classics that were hand sketched, or built out of 1's and 0's in a computer, this is the podcast that draws you in.
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How to Train Your Dragon’s Live-Action Leap and The Race for Best Animated Feature (Ep. 294)
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48:57In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor dive into the biggest stories in animation, including: The live-action How to Train Your Dragon – Drew shares behind-the-scenes details from his visit to the Universal lot, where he sat in the editing bay with director Dean DeBlois. The Academy Awards race heats up! With the Oscars just two …
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The Wild Robot Sweeps the Annies and The Lost Coyote vs. Acme Movie (Ep. 293)
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1:01:42In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor break down one of the biggest nights in animation as The Wild Robot dominates the Annie Awards, winning eight major categories. They also dive into the frustrating fate of Coyote vs. Acme, the Warner Bros. live-action/animated film that was shelved despite glowing reviews. Plus, they discuss…
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How Dog Man Became DreamWorks’ First Big Hit of 2025 (Ep. 292)
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50:38In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: Dog Man’s impressive $36M opening weekend and what it means for DreamWorks Animation. Tiana’s Bayou Adventure and the fascinating history behind Splash Mountain’s reimagining. Will Ferrell’s viral Buddy the Elf moment at an LA Kings game and his surprising reason for rejecting Elf 2…
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Animated Oscars Buzz: The Wild Robot, Flow, and Surprising Snubs (Ep. 291)
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53:39In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: Warner Bros. Animation’s ambitious adaptation of Dr. Seuss’ Oh, The Places You’ll Go! and its 2028 release plans. The marketing genius behind DreamWorks’ Dog Man, including a new The Bad Guys short premiering with the film. Animated Academy Award nominees, from The Wild Robot to Flo…
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How Hades Became the Star of Disney’s Hercules (Ep. 290)
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46:37In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: A behind-the-scenes look at Disney’s Hercules, from the creation of Hades to Jeffrey Katzenberg’s surprising influence on the character. The passing of legendary filmmakers David Lynch and Robert Verrall, celebrating their lasting impact on cinema and animation. Box office highlight…
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Wildfires Impact Animation and Josh Gad’s Olaf Journey (Ep. 289)
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49:56In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: The devastating wildfires in Southern California and their impact on the animation industry. Updates on box office hits like Moana 2, Mufasa: The Lion King, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3. The intriguing backstory of Olaf’s creation in Frozen and Josh Gad’s journey to voicing the beloved …
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Animation at the Golden Globes and Donald Duck’s Wartime Legacy (Ep. 288)
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43:46In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: The 82nd Golden Globes nominees for Best Animated Motion Picture, including Inside Out 2, Moana 2, and Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl. Hayao Miyazaki’s enduring creative spirit as the Studio Ghibli legend celebrates his 84th birthday. Disney’s history of using Donald Duck to …
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A Look Back at 2024 and What’s Next for Animation in 2025 (Ep. 287)
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43:11In this final episode of Fine Tooning for 2024, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor explore: How Mufasa: The Lion King roared back at the box office, edging out Sonic 3 during the holiday weekend. Updates from Pixar, including Tim Allen’s return as Buzz Lightyear in Toy Story 5 and the lingering delays around Win or Lose. A sneak peek at 2025’s animated lineu…
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Bluey’s Disney Debut and the Challenges of Mufasa: The Lion King (Ep. 286)
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42:19In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor dive into: The excitement surrounding Bluey's upcoming presence in Disney theme parks and its debut on Disney Cruise Line. Highlights from the Annie Awards, where The Wild Robot, Inside Out 2, and Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl lead the nominations. The box office performance of Mufas…
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Celebrating 35 Years of The Simpsons and Bluey’s Big Screen Debut (Ep. 285)
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44:26In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: The 35th anniversary of The Simpsons debut with "Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire," and how production challenges shaped its legacy. The upcoming Bluey feature film, its creator’s vision, and how the beloved pup is heading to theaters in 2027. Warner Bros. Animation’s Dynamic Duo, …
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How Roy E. Disney got “Fantasia Continued” greenlit (Ep 284 )
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49:07Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by discussing how well “Moana 2” did at the box office over its second weekend in theaters. They also talk about why “Paddington in Peru” had its release date pushed back to February 14, 2025 Listeners will learn about these highlights: How long did it take the original “Fantasia” to finally turn a …
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What became of Disney+’s “Tiana: The Series” (Ep 283)
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47:46Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by discussing how well “Moana 2” did at the domestic box office over its opening weekend. They then talk about the role that General Electric’s housewares division played in creating that beloved holiday special, “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer” For this episode, listeners will learn about: How did “F…
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From Wicked’s Box Office Smash to Oliver & Company’s 80s Charm (Ep. 282)
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56:00In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor bring you the latest in animation news and insights. Tune in as they dive into: "Wicked" Dominates the Box Office: Universal Pictures’ adaptation dazzles with a massive opening weekend. Jim and Drew discuss the strategic marketing behind its success and what it means for future blockbusters.…
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Rediscovering Disney’s Lost "Hero of Otherwhere" (Ep. 281)
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48:59In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss: The history and mystery behind Disney’s forgotten project The Hero of Otherwhere, a live-action/animation hybrid tied to Pete’s Dragon and Jerome Courtland's career. The evolution of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, celebrating 15 years of The Princess and the Frog while previewing the upda…
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Inside the 'Nightmare Before Christmas Light Trail': Tim Burton’s Latest Haunting Spectacle (Ep. 280)
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48:21In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor dive into the magical world of Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas Light Trail. Hear all about Jim's recent visit to this dazzling event at the New York Botanical Gardens, where he experienced life-sized sculptures, fog-filled forests, and stunning light displays that bring Burton's eeri…
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Did You Know Godzilla Had a Sidekick? Godzilla's Forgotten Cartoon (Ep. 279)
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44:23In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor dive into some of animation’s quirkiest corners and biggest news: Godzilla’s 70th Anniversary: Celebrating Godzilla Day with a look back at the 1978 Godzilla animated series and the fascinating story behind Hanna-Barbera’s unique take on the King of Monsters. The Wild Robot’s Box Office Succ…
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The Disney Hitchcock Movie That Never Was (Ep. 278)
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57:31In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor explore a wide range of animation news and insights: Netflix's Spellbound and Disney’s Thanksgiving Line-Up: A look at Netflix’s upcoming animated feature Spellbound set to compete with Disney’s holiday releases, plus details on Disney’s latest Thanksgiving promotions. King of the Hill Retur…
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Behind the Scenes of Moana 2: New Adventures, Big Challenges, and the Return of Maui (Ep. 277)
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44:54In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor take you behind the curtain of Moana 2, diving deep into the highlights from Drew’s recent panel at the Animation is Film festival. They explore the exciting details shared by directors David Derrick Jr. and Jason Hand, including Moana’s continued journey, new characters, and thrilling chall…
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The Lost Mickey Mouse Projects and Animation's Future (Ep. 276)
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52:20in this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor take you on a fascinating journey through Disney’s forgotten Mickey Mouse projects, including the untold story of "Mickey Columbus" and other abandoned ideas that never made it to the big screen. They also dive into Disney's challenges while bringing Mickey into the world of CGI, from his ic…
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The Fleischer Studios Legacy: Miami’s Forgotten Animation Powerhouse (Ep. 275)
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35:56In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill dives into the latest animation news and rumors. With Drew Taylor away, Jim covers: Unraveling Studio Feuds and Hollywood Drama: What caused the downfall of Fleischer Studios and their ultimate takeover by Paramount Pictures? Jennifer Lee’s Next Move: Disney Animation’s Chief Creative Officer steps down to …
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What was it like to see “Steamboat Willie” ‘s world premiere back in 1928 (Ep 275)
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35:19Jim Hill starts a solo edition of this podcast by discussing how well “The Wild Robot” did at the domestic box office this past weekend. He then discusses the Halloween-themed “The Bad Guys” special which will soon be debuting on Netflix Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about: How will Warner Bros. Discovery be celebrating Scooby Doo t…
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Jennifer Lee Steps Down, Disney’s Creative Shift, and Pixar’s Behind-the-Scenes Struggles (Ep. 274)
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40:24In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss the surprising news of Jennifer Lee stepping down as Chief Creative Officer of Walt Disney Animation Studios and what it means for the future of Disney’s animated films. They explore: Jennifer Lee’s New Role: How she’s shifting her focus to the upcoming Frozen 3 and Frozen 4. Jared B…
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How Coraline’s Revival Sparked Disney’s Return to Theaters (Ep 273)
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45:05In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor discuss how the successful 15th-anniversary re-release of Coraline inspired Disney to bring back some of its beloved classics to theaters. Find out how The Nightmare Before Christmas and Hocus Pocus are making their return to the big screen this Halloween season. Join us as we cover: Coralin…
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Hocus Pocus: The Halloween Hit That Left Spielberg Feeling Betrayed (Ep. 272)
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37:23In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor take you behind the scenes of Disney’s beloved Hocus Pocus and its unexpected connection to Steven Spielberg. Discover the untold story of how the Halloween classic was pitched, nearly lost, and ultimately stolen away from Spielberg. Tune in as we explore: The Spielberg-Kirschner Drama: How …
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“The Wild Robot” gets ready for its world premiere in Toronto (Ep. 271)
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45:08Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by discussing how “Inside Out” became the highest grossing animated feature of all time. They also take a look at the upcoming new “Wallace & Gromit” film, “Vengeance Most Fowl” Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about: How many films in Hollywood history have grossed over a billion dollars o…
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Which screen legend almost directed “Pete’s Dragon” (Ep. 270)
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50:38Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by seeing how “Inside Out 2” ‘s worldwide box office stacks up against Jon Favreau’s photo-realistic “Lion King.” They also talk about that Nightmare Before Christmas-themed light trail that’s coming to New York’s Botanical Gardens Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about: This long-running a…
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Pixar’s “Win or Lose” debuts on Disney+ on December 6th (Ep. 269)
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52:20Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by looking back at some of the animation-related news that came out of the D23 Expo. They also discuss a number of the books that event attendees could pick up at this year’s eve Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: Who now is voicing Elio’s aunt in Pixar Animation Studios’ big r…
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What’s interesting about the way Netflix is marketing “Spellbound” (Ep. 268)
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46:10Drew Taylor starts off this week’s show by looking back at the “Jurassic World: Chaos Panel” he moderated at last month’s San Diego Comic-Con. Then Jim Hill discusses the three feature-length films that were made at Fox Animation Studios in Phoenix Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: What spot did Pixar’s “Inside Out 2” j…
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What you really need to see at this year’s D23 Expo (Ep. 267)
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56:13Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by talking about how “Inside Out 2” just became the highest-grossing animated feature of all time (barring Disney’s photo-realistic “Lion King” of 2019). They also take a look back at “The Rescuers” Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about; Which character was Phil Harris originally supposed …
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When Cruella almost starred in Disney’s “The Rescuers” (Ep. 266)
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54:28Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by talking up the “Jurassic World: Chaos Theory” panel Drew will be hosting at this year’s San Diego Comic-Con. They then talk about which animated film franchise is currently the top earner Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about: How many people have been to every single Comic-Con since th…
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The “Nightmare” that led to “Toy Story” (Ep. 265)
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52:17Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by talking up the two books that Josh Gad will be bringing to the marketplace in the next six months. They then take a look at how “Inside Out 2” & “Despicable Me 4” have been doing at the box office Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: How many episodes for “Mel Brooks’ Spacebal…
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How “The Circle of Life” became the “Lion King” anthem (Ep. 264)
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48:04Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by discussing the animated feature that just blew past a billion dollars at the worldwide box office. They also take a look at how Universal Pictures’ promoted “Despicable Me 4” in Las Vegas Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about; How tall is the High Roller Ferris wheel (which …
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Who animated the Toontown section of “Roger Rabbit” (Ep. 263)
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42:25Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by talking about “Inside Out 2” ‘s continuing dominance at the worldwide box office. They then discuss some of the television-related news that came out of this year’s Annecy International Film Festival and Market For this episode, listeners will learn about: What’s the subtitle of the next holiday spec…
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Where can you find Figment in “Inside Out 2” (Ep. 261)
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45:59Drew Taylor is fresh back from France. And he tells Jim Hill all about the animated films that he got to see at this year’s international animation film festival and market For this episode, listeners will learn about: What did Nick Park have to say when he learned of Steven Spielberg’s love of the runaway train scene in “The Wrong Trousers” Which …
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How did Pixar decide which movies to make early on (Ep. 261)
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44:33Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by discussing how “The Garfield Movie” has been doing at the domestic box office. They also share some fond memories of Disney Legend Richard M. Sherman In this episode, listeners will learn about: Which animated feature – released to theaters a year ago this week – sold $120 million worth of tickets ov…
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When the Sherman Brothers left Disney Studios (Ep. 260)
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41:57Jim Hill first talks about how “The Garfield Movie” did domestically over the long Memorial Day Week. He then discusses that new YouTube documentary, “Beyond the Glass: The WDW Animation Building” Throughout this episode, listeners will learn about: Which fairy tale classic was supposed to have served as the basis of Disney’s first-ever live-action…
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Remembering Jim Henson’s “Muppet Babies” (Ep. 259)
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52:16Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by discussing the first full trailer for Netflix’s “Ultraman: Rising.” They then talk about “Flow,” the dialogue-free post-apocalyptic animated feature which will be debuting at Cannes next week In this episode, listeners will learn about: Who will be voicing Garfield’s Dad in the new animated feature t…
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How Motel 6 is helping to promote “The Garfield Movie” (Ep. 258)
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43:35Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by talking up “Exploding Kittens.” They then take a look at Mark Dindal’s career as the director of full-length animated features Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: What was the one-and-only film to be produced by Turner Feature Animation Why is the Henson family reportedly…
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Remembering MGM’s “Magic of Disney Animation” (Ep. 258)
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56:24Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by talking about the series finale for that Lucasfilm Animation production, “Star Wars: The Bad Batch.” They then talk about how pleased Paramount+ is with the debut of its “Knuckles” mini-series Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: Where did the “Bluey’s Big Play” traveling …
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“Shrek 2” celebrates its 20th anniversary (Ep. 256)
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43:10Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by talking up Pixar Fest (which starts this weekend at Disneyland Park). They then look ahead to which studios will be doing presentations at this year’s Annecy International Animation Film Festival & Market For this episode, listeners will learn about: How many Disney-related items are coming up fo…
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Which emotions didn’t make it into “Inside Out 2” (Ep. 255)
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49:47Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by talking up "Ultraman: Rising.” They then discuss which animation studio is soon to be honored with a Palme D’Odr at this year’s Cannes Film Festival For this episode, listeners will learn about: Which character in Pixar’s “Up” did Peter Docter’s daughter Elizabeth voice What does the future poten…
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The creatures that got cut from Pixar’s “The Good Dinosaur” (Ep. 254)
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44:21Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s episode by looking back at how Walt Disney Studios did effects back in the 1960s. They also talk about the version of “Toy Story 3” that Circle 7 Studios had in development Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: When will “Kung Fu Panda 4” be available for viewing on digital platfor…
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How we went from Bluto to Brutus & back again (Ep. 253)
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42:41Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start this week’s show by talking about many of the animation-related books that will hit store shelves later this year. They also discuss how “Aladdin” commemorated its 10th year on Broadway Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: Which member of the “Frozen” voice cast just collaborated on a Putnum’s Bo…
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When Tim Allen almost played the Cat in the Hat (Ep. 252)
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53:54Drew Taylor starts off by revealing what he saw at the preview event for this year’s D23 Expo. Then Jim Hill shares a history of Genndy Tartakovsky’s never-completed “Popeye” Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: Which D23 Expo events are going to presented this time around over at the Honda Center, rather than inside of the …
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Disney Movie Club closes for good on May 20th (Ep. 251)
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38:43Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by discussing the 96th Academy Awards. They then take a look at how well “Kung Fu Panda 4” did at the domestic box office over this past weekend. Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: What did Totie Fields say to Gene Simmons when they met backstage at “The Mike Douglas Show” …
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“Maximum Horsepower” & other animated series that didn’t get greenlit (Ep. 250)
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47:20Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by discussing Sean Bailey’s sudden departure from Walt Disney Studios. They then talk about why WDAS vet Hyrum Osmond will be sorely missed by “Frozen” fans Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: How has the “Curious George Goes to Town” area at Universal Studios Florida been r…
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How “Rhapsody in Blue” became part of “Fantasia 2000” (Ep. 249)
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40:32Drew Taylor & Jim Hill start off this week’s show by talking about Warner Bros Discovery’s Q4 earnings call. They then talk about which animated features & shorts took home awards at this year’s Annies Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: What was the name of the “Fantasia” follow-up that Disney had in the works in the early…
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Multiple “Moanas” are heading for your local multiplex come 2024 & 2025 (Ep. 428)
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48:05Drew Taylor returns with a detailed recap of what’s been going on with “Coyote vs Acme.” Then Jim Hill talks about the recently released trailer for “Iwaju,” that animated limited series from Disney & Kugali Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: When will the “Valley of the Witches” be opening at Ghibli Park over in Japan Who…
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Why Pixar’s “Newt” got neutered (Ep. 247)
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49:14Jim Hill starts off this week’s show with a solo news section. Then Drew Taylor joins the fun in a pre-taped segment that looks back at Gary Rydstrom’s animated films Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about: How many Annie nominations did Pixar’s “Elemental” receive this year Which William Shakespeare play provided the inspirati…
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How Hanna-Barbera got started in animation for television (Ep. 246)
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28:38In a solo show this week, Jim Hill starts things off by recapping what happened at this year’s Golden Globe. He shares what he’s heard about the lay-offs that are reportedly coming to Pixar Animation Studios later this year. Over the course of this episode, listeners will learn about; When will the Blu-ray version of Disney’s “Wish” be hitting stor…
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