Global campaigner and author Sarah Brown chats with people who've had a positive influence on the world around them, and unearths the lessons to help us do the same. Find out how to develop the better angel inside yourself. Featuring stories from globally renowned campaigners, Nobel Prize winners, celebrities, politicians and remarkable young people, Better Angels with Sarah Brown champions the activist spirit. Credits: Executive Producer: Ben Hewitt Music: Pete Lyons Photo: Brian Aris
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The global early years crisis
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This year, Theirworld launched the Act For Early Years campaign, calling on world leaders and global institutions to act to support the world’s youngest children. In March, Theirworld brought together a panel of experts to discuss at the critical issues around providing quality care and early learning for young children - and the burden that falls …
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100th episode: In conversation with Sarah and Gordon Brown
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To celebrate the 100th episode of Better Angels on World Children’s Day, Sarah handed over her hosting microphone to Andrew Jack, global education editor of the Financial Times, for a wide-ranging interview with her and her husband, Gordon Brown, about the state of global education. Andrew asked Sarah and Gordon, the United Nations Special Envoy fo…
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In November, the world will gather in Egypt for COP27, the United Nations Climate Change Conference, to discuss ways to tackle the climate emergency. In this episode, Sarah Brown speaks with Keya Lamba, the co-founder of Earth Warriors, an organisation bringing climate education to curriculums around the world, and most recently, with the support o…
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Right now, 260 million children are not in school, and many more are in the classroom but not receiving a quality education. Let down by poorly trained teachers, outdated curriculums and lack of digital connectivity, they risk not reaching their full learning potential. Next week, world leaders will debate solutions to this crisis at the historic T…
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20th Anniversary Special #4: What next?
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In the final episode of Theirworld’s 20th anniversary special, Theirworld Chair Sarah Brown talks with Beatrace Ndisha Mwanjala, a Global Youth Ambassador from Kenya, about what needs to be done to ensure we meet the United Nations goal of inclusive and quality education for all children by 2030. Beatrace shares some of her own struggles accessing …
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20th Anniversary Special #3: How do you forge powerful partnerships?
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In the third episode of Theirworld’s 20th anniversary special, Theirworld Chair Sarah Brown talks with Motunrayo Fatoke, a Global Youth Ambassador (GYA) from Nigeria, about how forging powerful partnerships has helped to get some of the world’s most vulnerable children back into school. We also hear from Maysa Jalbout, Senior Advisor on Education i…
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20th Anniversary Special #2: How do you create a movement?
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In the second episode of Theirworld’s 20th anniversary special, Theirworld Chair Sarah Brown talks with Benedict Joson, a former Global Youth Ambassador (GYA) who supported Theirworld's 2015 #UpForSchool petition calling on world leaders to prioritise education. The petition gathered 11 million signatures, making it the largest petition for educati…
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20th Anniversary Special #1: How do you start a charity?
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To celebrate Theirworld’s 20th anniversary, we have produced a special Better Angels podcast series about the history and evolution of the charity. In the opening episode of this four-part series, Theirworld Chair Sarah Brown talks with Dr Taha Khan, a former Global Youth Ambassador who was selected to support many of Theirworld’s early campaigns. …
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International Women's Day 2021 Special #2: Live from Theirworld's virtual event
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In this episode, we hear some highlights from Theirworld's International Women's Day event and speak with some of the event's attendees about girls’ education and gender equality Theirworld hosted its 7th annual International Women’s Day event on Thursday 4 March - but went virtual for the first time ever, due to Covid-19. Covid-19 has put the issu…
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International Women's Day 2021 Special #1: Youth Activism
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In this episode, Jamira Burley, Theirworld's Head of Youth Engagement & Skills, talks to two remarkable young women who are doing incredible work on the ground to open up education to the next generation of female leaders. Together we explore what the global recovery should look like, and why girls’ education needs to be front and centre. Educating…
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UN Special #12: Rangina Hamidi Interview
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Rangina Hamidi, the Minister of Education in Afghanistan, talks to Sarah Brown about growing up as a child refugee in Pakistan. She says she was faced with threats of acid attacks just because she went to school. Her parents decided to flee to America to enable her and her sister to have an education. She says the struggles she faced as a child mad…
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UN Special #11: Sanda Ojiambo Interview
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Sanda Ojiambo, Executive Director of the United Nations Global Compact, talks to Sarah Brown about how businesses can take positive action to address some of the world's biggest challenges. Talking about climate change, she says that businesses have a choice: they can grow in a "GDP-led way" or follow "a green model of growth". "If [these decisions…
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Danielle Green, a Theirworld Global Youth Ambassador from the United Kingdom, speaks to Sarah Brown about the importance of children receiving a good quality education. Danielle says: “It really matters that children have not just an education or appear in an educational space, but that what they're being taught is really, really relevant and impor…
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UN Special #9: Palak Sharma Interview
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Palak Sharma, a Theirworld Global Youth Ambassador from India, talks to Sarah Brown about the challenges facing the education system in her country. She says that if the country is serious about advancing education for children, they must address issues around sanitation at the same time. “The important task right now is to ensure that these two go…
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UN Special #8: Marianne Bitar Karam Interview
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Marianne Bitar Karam, Country Director at DOT Lebanon, a non-governmental organisation, speaks to Sarah Brown about the challenges facing children in her country during Covid-19. She says that the digital divide in Lebanon meant that many children were excluded from education because they were unable to access online learning materials during the p…
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UN Special #7: Obakeng Leseyane Interview
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Obakeng Leseyane, a Theirworld Global Youth Ambassador, talks to Sarah Brown about the transformational impact of education on others. He says that educating even just one child has a "ripple effect" on their community. Growing up in Rustenburg, South Africa, Obakeng was told that the only way to be successful was to become a platinum miner. He cha…
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UN Special #6: Theo Sowa Interview
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Theo Sowa, CEO, The African Women's Development Fund, talks to Sarah Brown about the rampant inequalities around the world which are depriving children of a better future. She says that in the current situation, children who have benefited the most are those "who are wealthier and who are in economically secure situations." To help the most margina…
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UN Special #5: Annemiek Hoogenboom Interview
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Annemiek Hoogenboom, Country Director, People's Postcode Lottery, tells Sarah Brown that "radical goals, patience and execution" are the building blocks for change. She also says that luck has a big part to play. She says: "When we admit that a big part of our success is pure luck, it makes us want to help other people more.“ Annemiek also touches …
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Sarah Brown talks to Emanuel "Boo Milton", about his work as a community organiser and youth advocate in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. When Covid-19 struck, Boo created activity packs - called Spark Boxes - for children to ensure that they were able to continue their learning during the pandemic. Talking about the power of learning, he says: "Education u…
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UN Special #3: Tariq Al Gurg Interview
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Tariq Al Gurg, CEO of Dubai Cares, talks to Sarah Brown about the importance in developing countries of providing parents with incentives to send their children to school. He says that health and sanitation programs which ensure children are fed and kept clean in the classroom help to persuade parents of the benefits of sending their children to sc…
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UN Special #2: John Goodwin Interview
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John Goodwin, CEO of The LEGO Foundation, talks to Sarah Brown about the need to “redefine” play and “reimagine” learning. He argues that play is often overlooked by society when in fact it helps children to develop important skills for adult life, such as critical thinking and problem solving. “Play is the way that children are naturally wired to …
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UN Special #1: Filippo Grandi Interview
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Filippo Grandi, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, speaks with Sarah Brown about the need for young people to vote - and to vote well - if they want to make a difference to people’s lives. In the inaugural episode of this Better Angels podcast series, he argues that voting is “the most basic and fundamental form of engagement” in democr…
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Refugee education in Greek islands special
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Refugee camps in Greece remain overcrowded and unhygienic beyond imagination, but until Covid-19 struck new education centres were a daily lifeline for children who had fled conflict and persecution, many arriving after perilous journeys from Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. This episode provides a glimpse into life in those camps and talks to the team…
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The world of work interview special
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Sarah Brown explores the themes of the new Penguin paperback How to Go Work, and its subtitle, the Honest Advice No Else Ever Tells You, with authors Lucy Clayton and Steven Haines. Initially recorded just before lockdown for young activists and those starting out on their careers, Steven and Lucy then added an interview about how the coronavirus c…
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International Women’s Day 2020 Special
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Sarah Brown talks to guests at Theirworld’s sixth International Women’s Day event, where women from all walks of life, with a few men dotted around, gathered to talk and share their experiences, contacts and ideas on how to unlock big change for girls and young women. We hear Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, former Nigerian finance minister and World Bank m…
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Unlock Big Change: A People's Postcode Lottery Special
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This is a special edition of the Better Angels podcast where we talk to iconic changemakers around the world. This episode has been recorded for the People’s Postcode Lottery – for everyone who plays it and everyone who works there supporting both the players and the charities – at Theirworld we want to say thank you and share some of our stories f…
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Max Kenner: how prison education gives hope
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Max Kenner, founder and executive director of the Bard Prison Initiative in the United States, discusses the impact of prison education with Sarah Brown. As he says, ‘nothing does more to create a sense of hope and purpose in otherwise desperate places than the opportunity to learn’. A leading advocate for his cause, Max’s programme enrols jailed m…
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Social reform special: Edwina Grosvenor and Dan Snow
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In something of a first for Better Angels, Sarah talks to husband & wife advocates for change - Dan Snow, the popular TV presenter and historian, and Edwina Grosvenor, philanthropist and prison activist. They discuss their passion for speaking up for under-privileged people and how understanding the past informs their activism and awareness. Edwina…
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Interview Special: Young campaigners on changing global education
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Young activists share their ideas on campaigning to end the global education crisis. Sarah speaks to four of Theirworld’s Global Youth Ambassadors, inspiring young campaigners. They share their passion for helping children around the world gain access to education and talk about the important role education has to play in providing life skills that…
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Interview special: Vibhu Sharma
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Sarah talks to remarkable campaigner and inclusion expert Vibhu Sharma about how to bring more children and young people with disabilities into education. Sharing the difficulties she went through at school, Vibhu speaks about making sure that others do not have the same experience. They discuss what makes education truly inclusive, for children wi…
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Interview Special: guest host June Sarpong and Justin van Fleet
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June Sarpong MBE, writer and broadcaster, takes over as guest host, talking to Justin van Fleet, President of Theirworld and Executive Director of the Global Business Coalition for Education. Justin describes how a trip to Bolivia as a teenager inspired him to work in education, and how education is providing hope and a degree of normality to thous…
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Interview Special: Extinction Rebellion
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Sarah talks to activists at the heart of the Extinction Rebellion campaign, which seemed to burst out of nowhere in the spring of 2019 with its demand for action to end the world’s climate crisis and ecological emergency. In the midst of new actions in London, Clare Farrell, Will Skeaping and Dr Deepa Shah discuss how the movement has made its mark…
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Interview Special: Rosie Jones
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Comedian, Writer and Actor Rosie Jones joins Sarah for a conversation on what drew Rosie to comedy in the first place and the representation of people with disabilities on TV and in the media. Inspired by the passion for her call for disability, inclusion and equal rights, Sarah jumped at the opportunity to speak to Rosie during the Edinburgh Fring…
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Sarah looks back at 3 years of conversations with extraordinary Better Angels Sir Patrick Stewart, Caroline Criado Perez, Sarah Corbett, Theo Sowa CBE, Jamira Burley and Peter Tatchell. This one-off Greatest Hits episode revisits different campaigning styles, why these remarkable campaigners are advocates for change in their field, and their incred…
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Slay in Your Lane Authors Yomi Adegoke and Elizabeth Uviebinené join Sarah to discuss the success of their first book as a best-selling guide to life for black British women, and their newly published book Slay in Your Lane: The Journal. Yomi and Elizabeth explain the intentions of Slay in Your Lane steering Black British women to find role models…
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Kirsty McNeill Interview Special
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In this new series of the Better Angels podcast, host Sarah Brown is exploring how different personality types call for change. For the final episode of this series, Sarah speaks with Executive Director of Policy, Advocacy and Change at Save the Children Kirsty McNeill, who is leading teams to galvanise the public and influence policy makers on hum…
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In this new series of the Better Angels podcast, Sarah Brown is exploring how different personality types call for change. In this episode of the series, Sarah speaks to a range of guests about the new styles of campaigning, ones that look different to what we usually see and don’t always start with big budgets. These campaigns are often down to on…
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Oscar's Book Prize Interview Special
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In this Better Angels interview special, host Sarah Brown speaks with James Ashton and Viveka Alvestrand, co-founders of Oscar’s Book Prize, an annual prize for the best books written for under-fives, awarded each year in memory of Oscar Ashton. Oscar’s Book Prize champions the vital importance of reading to young minds and as Chair of Theirworld, …
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In this new series of the Better Angels podcast, Sarah Brown is exploring how different personality types call for change. In this episode of the series, Sarah speaks to a range of guests about the Voices of activism. First we hear from Scottish actor David Tennant about his work supporting various charities, including Comic Relief and Worldwide Ca…
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Caroline Criado Perez Interview Special
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In this Better Angels Interview Special, Sarah Brown speaks to Caroline Criado Perez, a writer and feminist activist and one of Britain's best known campaigners for women’s rights and visibility. Starting with The Women’s Room project, a national campaign to call for female experts to be better represented in discussion, Caroline then took on the B…
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In this new series of the Better Angels podcast, Sarah Brown is exploring how different personality types call for change. In this episode of the series, Sarah speaks to a range of guests about the Noise of activism, and how the volume of a protest can help it reach audiences fast and with impact. First, we hear from British journalist and feminist…
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Interview Specials: Quiet Activism with Claire Heuchan
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Listen to Sarah Brown in conversation with Sarah Corbett, Claire Heuchan and Stuart Beveridge with special episodes of their interviews from the Quiet Activism podcast Claire Heuchan is the award-winning black feminist writer who blogs under the name Sister Outrider.
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Interview Specials: Quiet Activism with Stuart Beveridge
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In these interview specials, listen to Sarah Brown’s extended interviews with guests from the Quiet Activism Better Angels episode. Stuart Beveridge, who has been blind since birth, works for Seescape challenging large technology companies to improve their accessibility and better communicate what features they offer.…
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Interview Specials: Quiet Activism with Sarah Corbett
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In these interview specials, listen to Sarah Brown’s extended interviews with guests from the Quiet Activism Better Angels episode. Sarah Corbett is a professional activist and founder of Craftivist Collective - a social enterprise that combines craft and activism to engage people with social justice in a non-confrontational way.…
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Campaigning Styles: Quiet Activism
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In this new series of the Better Angels podcast, Sarah Brown is exploring how different personality types call for change. In this first episode of a new series, Sarah speaks to inspiring guests about quiet activism and how introverts are using their gentle voices to create big change. First, we hear from Sarah Corbett about the the challenges that…
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Live Special - Theirworld’s International Women’s Day London Event
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Live from Theirworld’s International Women’s Day breakfast event in London and hosted by Sarah Brown and U.S. activist and youth skills campaigner Jamira Burley, this Better Angels episode features inspiring women from a variety of sectors joining together to discuss safe schools and how to break down barriers to girls’ education. You will hear fro…
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Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr Denis Mukwege Interview Special
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Ahead of today's Nobel Peace Prize Award Ceremony in Oslo, host Sarah Brown revisits her interview special with this years Nobel Peace Prize winner Dr Denis Mukwege. Dr Mukwege is a modern-day hero and a truly remarkable man, with an unwavering dedication to the physical and mental health of women. Using his medical expertise, Dr Mukwege has become…
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Gordon Brown and Liesbet Steer Interview Special
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In this Better Angels interview special guest host Tom Fletcher speaks to former UK Prime Minister and UN Special Envoy for Education Gordon Brown and Director of the Education Commission Liesbet Steer about the new International Finance Facility for Education (IFFEd). IFFEd has been proposed to generate the huge sums needed for countries to ensure…
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Valerie Amos Interview Special
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In this Better Angels interview special guest host Tom Fletcher speaks with British politician and diplomat Baroness Valerie Amos, who served as the Leader of the House of Lords, United Nations Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs, Secretary of State and Emergency Relief Coordinator and British High Commissioner to Australia. Valerie al…
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If we can see what change is needed, why is it so hard?
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Throughout the series we’ve heard from world leaders, teachers, tech entrepreneurs, CEOs and Prime Ministers from around the world about what the future of learning looks like, and what skills people will need in the future. The final episode explores the how...if we can see what change is needed, why is it so hard? Three gurus on social media and …
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