The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.
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Who We Are with Jeffery Robinson
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The Who We Are Project founder, Jeffery Robinson, describes the history of our country regarding anti-black racism. Jeffery elaborates on the details behind what makes our country the way it is today.
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Powerful Methods with Chris Stoy
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TLC graduate, Chris Stoy, discusses a recent trial that included a deposition with Rafe Foreman. Listen as Chris explains how he and Rafe’s use of TLC methods in this trial resulted in a victory after a zero offer settlement before trial.
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Defaults in Jurors with Chris Trundy
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TLC staff member, Chris Trundy, discusses default bias in jurors and continues the thought experiments brought forward by Brady Skinner in the previous episode. Listen as Chris expounds on the trial story and how to discover juror defaults during a criminal case.
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The Influence of Bias with Brady Skinner
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2015 TLC graduate, Brady Skinner, talks about his recent criminal trials and media influence regarding safety and perspective of apprehended individuals. Listen as Brady discusses dealing with conscious and implicate bias both in his past and with his current jurors.
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Tales from the Women’s Retreat with Emma Roddy
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Emma Roddy shares her recent experiences while participating at the most recent Women’s Retreat through the Trial Lawyers College. Hear how the sessions on powerful storytelling and connecting with other participants impacted Emma and reinvigorated her drive for finding the client’s story.
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From Hostage to Hero with Sari de la Motte
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Communications expert, Sari de la Motte, shares a sneak peek regarding the upcoming Women’s Retreat this month and describes the importance of jury selection, voir dire techniques, and shared morality between everyone participating in a trial. Listen as Sari explains her perspective on jury selection and the “ideal” juror within her voir dire tacti…
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Powerful Women telling Powerful Stories with Betsy Greene
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Betsy Greene, TLC graduate of 2005, describes the power of tribal groups and storytelling as she shares information on the upcoming Women’s Retreat on April 21-26, 2023. Listen as Betsy preps the audience for the next Trial Lawyers College event and details early career aspects while dealing with the insurance industry and the genesis of the separa…
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Emergency Rejuvenation with John Charles Hardin
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John Charles Hardin, hailing from McKenny, TX, shares his experience at the latest Trial Lawyers College event, Trial Skills Foundation. John speaks about his rejuvenation from his most recent TLC event and the power of creative passion.
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Fresh from Trial Skills Foundation with Jake Weinstock
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Jake Weinstock, fresh from the most recent Trial Skills Foundation course, explains his previous frustrations with other seminars and lectures about continuing education. Jake tells us about the community-centered education and hands on training he experienced at the most recent TLC event. Come listen to how TLC impacted Jake Weinstock and his care…
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A Life of Balance with Brian McCallister (I think I can)
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Why does TLC matter? A life, void of balance and full of self-medication, creates an unconnected mental state full of meaninglessness and lack of purpose. Brian McCallister helps bring together concepts and ideas about work-life balance to demonstrate a healthy, meaningful life as an attorney. Listen as Brian describes the benefits and tactics of a…
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Challenges for Women in Law with Ginger Ortiz
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Ginger Ortiz, during a season of growth in public defending, explains the need for attorneys, especially women, to be more authentically themselves and find peace by seeking community among like-minded peers. As faculty for the upcoming Women’s Retreat for Powerful Storytelling, Ginger encourages every listener to sign up and experience a powerful …
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Swoop and Settle with David Glenn
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David Glenn, TLC graduate of 2006, explains the unfair, predatory practices insurance companies apply. Hear how David Glenn uses his 41 years of experience and TLC methods to seek justice from insurance companies employing "swoop and settle" tactics.
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Comprehensive Staff Training with Kimberly Benjamin
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Kimberly Benjamin discusses the importance of experience and training staff in TLC methods within a mid-sized law firm without losing focus on clients. Listen as she describes the advice she received as a business owner and her success in training her employees.
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Mitigation Factors with Justine Finney
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Missouri public defender, Justine Finney, explains her unique situation during her transfer out of death penalty case division. Listen as she details the connections between her clients when death or life without parole is a possible outcome in their case.
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Reversal of Indignity with Bill Trine
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Bill Trine, one of the original Trial Lawyers College founders, details his previous casework with detainees and immigrants during their detention in various U.S. prisons and penitentiaries. Hear Bill Trine as he details the long history of privatizing prisons for profit and the ongoing fight against civil rights violations in State and Federal pri…
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The Power Within with Todd Kelly
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We all wrestle with demons. The power within is the power to overcome them. Todd Kelly describes his recent book titled “The Power Within”, the story of a pivotal moment in his life in which he struggled with a suicide attempt and the role-reversal exercise that saved his life.
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A Dab Will Do with Maureen Farrell
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One-time TLC course attendee Maureen Farrell shares her personal experiences and growing understanding of psychodrama ignited by a one week TLC course last year in Colorado. Listen as she expands on TLC skills and techniques she’s learned from just one event with the incredible TLC staff.
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Trial Skills Foundation with Max Mitchell
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Listen here to TLC's podcast, with host Rafe Foreman, visiting with Trial Skills Foundation Faculty Member Max Mitchell about the importance of the Public Defender, a position Max recently left to open a solo criminal defense practice in Sedalia, MO.
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TLC Seminars and Courses by Patrick McLain
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Patrick McLain joins us to elaborate on his experiences with all the Trial Lawyers College courses and encourage others to participate in upcoming events with TLC staff. Patrick goes over each course coming up in 2023 and helps detail the planning, effort, and benefit of each unique course.
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You Look Fine to Me (Neuro-diversity in indigent defendants)
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Come and listen to Kim Savo's excellent podcast on neuro-diversity and how we as lawyers need to educate ourselves for representation of clients who fall in this category.
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Treat Everyone Well by Emily Fisher
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Public defender Emily Fisher shares her unique perspective of the broken indigent defense system and offers her unique insight into solutions, including the value of community.
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Colby Vokey - High Stakes
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Colby Vokey tells the gripping story around his current military case and his use of TLC methods to discover and relay his case.
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Child Custody Drama - Amanda Harber
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Using the TLC methods of role reversal, doubling, and psychodrama to enrich and deepen the connection for parents who have suffered the loss of their children at the hands of the government, please come and listen while Amanda Harber teaches us.
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To Vaccinate Or Not? That is often the question.
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Simina is uniquely qualified to utilize psychodrama as a certified psychodramatist and in this episode, she not only employs the TLC methods, but gives us a substantive look into the world of the Vaccine court.Kirjoittanut Simina Vourlis
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Character Flaws - Ken Turek
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Be Yourself - Harry Daniels III
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Harry Daniels III splits his time between civil and criminal trials. Listen as he tells you his insights on how to get to know your client better as well as finding your own powerful voice as an advocate.
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Putting Your Client First - Joy Bertrand
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Joy Bertrand explains her personal journey to withholding judgment of a client who has made poor decisions. The result was a connection that moved her to tears. Stay tuned and give a listen.
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Felony chief public defender Jason Sosa recounts the value of TLC methods in training young aspiring trial lawyers in the correct way to practice law including jail cell reenactments and role reversals with members of his community.
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The Power of Story - Brianne van Reenen
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Listen as Brianne, a professional storyteller, author, and book publisher discusses the power of connection and story.
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Jerry Perry, past F Warrior President, invites you to learn about yourself, your authenticity, and your uniqueness. Listen while he explains the power contained therein.
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Come and listen to Joe Fried, TLC grad of 2002 who has worked on cases in 40 states in the Us, as he talks about fear, a.k.a. "Fred in my head", and imparts his wisdom and insightful methods of turning the voices and fear down a level or two.
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Eric Davis: Don't Give Up, Get Better!
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Eric Davis, our newest TLC Board Member, shares his wisdom, his leadership, and a few personal stories which add up to the greatest piece of advice I have yet to hear on this podcast. Don't give up, get better!
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Why TLC is a Big Part of My Success
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State Representative and Trial Lawyer Ann Johnson discusses her new role as a member of the board of directors for the Trial Lawyers College and how she uses TLC methods in the courtroom, the legislature, and as a politician with equal force and effect.
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Race is critical, its not a theory by Greg Westfall
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Come and listen to Greg Westfalls' insightful, inspirational and creative use of real historical events, exhibited in museums in Montgomery, Alabama, for training purposes for the defense of the damned and in representing the condemned, the downtrodden, and the damned.
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Emotion with Carlos Concepcion
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Tenured law professor and trial lawyer Carolos Concepcion offers insight into TLC methods from his own experience researching the effect of emotions on humans.
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From Oxford England, Paul O'Grady
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Advocacy traverses our nation's boundaries. Listen as Barrister Paul O'Grady explains the Irish court system and his comparison to our system in the US.
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Todd Kelly and Story Board at Mediation
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Todd Kelly details TLC winning methods leading to a recent settlement in a trucking case at mediation. Learn how his client's story and use of story boards through expert witness depositions became the gift that kept on giving.
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Moth Symbiosis with Maren Chaloupka
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Maren Chaloupka explains the exciting symbiotic relationship between the moth storytelling techniques and TLC. Maren is the director and leader of the Grad 2 Course for Trial Lawyers College where new and innovative techniques, curriculum, and personal development are taught by outstanding faculty. Maren details Grad 2 Course and issues an open inv…
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Eric Fong’s Pathway to Empathy and Creativity
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TLC Grad and faculty member Eric Fong explain the connection and path to the empathy he learned at the 3-Week TLC flagship course. Listen carefully as Eric explains how TLC opened up a new world of creativity in his profession and personal life. Don't miss this podcast.
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Defense of the Damned is Credited for Saving Man's Life - Grethe Hahn
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Learn how major Grethe Hahn represented a convicted and previously sentenced to death member of the armed forces and successfully beat the sentence of death in the retrial.
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Trial Skills Course Overview with Co-director Stephen Demik
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Listen to course co-director Stephen Demik describe the outstanding trial skills course which is coming up soon. Each director gives detailed examples of the benefits of attending this trial skills course that you won't want to miss. Tune in and experience an uplifting program with real-life examples for us to all learn from them.…
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Trial Skills Course Overview with Co-director Jim Leach
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Listen to course director Jim Leach describe the outstanding trial skills course which is coming up soon. Each director gives detailed examples of the benefits of attending TLC's Trial Skills Foundation seminar that you won't want to miss. Tune in and experience an uplifting program with real-life examples for us all to learn from.…
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First Time Juror with Tim Baker
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In today’s episode, Rafe takes the opportunity to interview Tim Baker as he anticipates being a juror. Rafe walks Tim through the basics of being a juror, what to expect, and how to prepare.
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Karen Lindholdt Speaks on the Most Difficult Cases and TLC's Methods
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As a leading Spokane, Washington Attorney, Karen Lindholdt has been a successful advocate for the injured and wrongfully accused for the past 27 years. TLC graduate Karen Lindholdt discusses the experience of being a woman representing men accused of sexual assault. Karen discusses the TLC methods that helped her and the difficulties that come with…
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The Truth is a Dangerous Gift with Valerie Malone
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Join our special holiday interview with Valerie Malone as she discusses the season of giving. Valerie and Rafe exchange stories of good tidings and cheer.
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Taking Time Away with John Sloan
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TLC President John Sloan joins the podcast to examine the importance of taking time away from work to strengthen your skills of being a trial lawyer. John and Rafe discuss how participating in various TLC programs can grow and stretch you as a trial lawyer.
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Victoria Rusk on Returning Integrity to the Courtroom
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“It’s integrity. If you don’t have integrity in your thoughts, it’s going to show. You’re going to come across as fake, and nobody wants to be associated with that.” Victoria Rusk, a mitigation specialist and investigator from Houston, TX, credits the Trial Lawyers College’s In Defense of the Damned program with giving her the tools that enhance he…
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Adam Murray on Genuinely Connecting With the Jury
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“It is the idea of just being yourself and connecting and being genuine and not just pretending to be genuine but being actually genuine...see how that actually works.” This fall, former prosecutor Adam Murray enjoyed training at the Trial Lawyers College intensive five-day course in Shambhala, Colorado. Although he is not yet a TLC graduate, he de…
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Kenny Adair on Discovering the Essence of the Story
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“Lawyers get bogged down in minutiae and facts. The facts are important. The facts are the latticework upon which you hang the flesh of your case, and the flesh of your case is going to be the principles, the values, the emotion, the feelings, the betrayal; those types of things are what make a case relatable to a jury.” This week, Kenny Adair, for…
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