Why Listening and Empathy Matter in Our Industry with Jud Mackrill

Bridging The Gap

In this episode of Bridging the Gap, I have the honor of talking with Jud Mackrill about the dynamic landscape of the wealth tech industry and the importance of understanding the industry. Jud highlights the necessity for advisors to evolve continuously, addressing the challenges associated with implementing changes in organizations, particularly concerning scale and budget constraints. We explore how modern advisors need to personalize their approaches and stay committed to guiding their clients, while creatively utilizing available tools and technology to offer clients not just financial well-being but also a deeper level of meaning and purpose in their lives. Jud talks deeply on practicing listening and empathy, emphasizing that these skills can lead to more meaningful work and relationships.

We dive into the challenges faced by new technology companies entering the wealth management space, especially in terms of user acquisition and identifying key client problems worth solving. We highlight the importance of understanding immediate profitability, emphasizing the role of asset managers in determining the longevity of wealth tech companies. Jud discusses the potential conflicts between custodians and technology companies concerning a seamless client experience and underscores the need for advisors to either assemble their client experiences uniquely or rely on technology companies for superior services. One actionable takeaway here involves advisors enhancing their business by creatively assembling client experiences that prioritize ease and satisfaction.

The conversation also looks at the intersection of AI and wealth management, noting the challenges related to data access and cleanliness, which are crucial for leveraging AI effectively. Jud explains how they help clients establish data pipelines to gain control and transparency, which can transform businesses. We both agree on the necessity of meaningful and deep conversations with clients, incorporating psychology and therapy tactics to understand their values and life desires better. Another actionable takeaway from their discussion is for financial advisors to integrate AI tools thoughtfully to complement, rather than replace, their advisory roles.

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