Episode 217: Pause To Ponder - Can We Truly Quantify Knowledge? The Counter Narrative: Changing The Way We Talk (and Think) About Education podcast

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Episode 243: Pause to Ponder - When Autonomy Meets Apathy 12:27

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In this conversation, Charles Williams reflects on the challenges faced in educational leadership, particularly the struggle between fostering teacher autonomy and the ingrained culture of compliance. He discusses the importance of creating a supportive environment for educators, recognizing the need for both structure and freedom in professional development. The conversation emphasizes the significance of alignment between leadership beliefs and teacher needs, ultimately advocating for a responsive approach to leadership that prioritizes growth and commitment over mere compliance.…

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Episode 242: Interview w/ Mark Gibson 34:47

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Mark Gibson Jr. about his journey in education, the importance of building resiliency in students, and the proactive strategies educators can implement to foster a supportive learning environment. Mark shares his personal experiences and insights on mentorship, accountability, and the necessity of creating safe spaces for students to thrive. The conversation emphasizes the need for educators to be aware of their biases, to build strong relationships with students, and to prioritize their own wellness in order to effectively support their students' growth.…

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Episode 241: Pause to Ponder - Autism in Real Life 9:02

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams shares his personal journey of understanding autism through the lens of his grandson, Leo. He emphasizes that autism awareness should extend beyond a single month and highlights the importance of acceptance, support, and celebrating small victories. Charles discusses the significance of viewing behavior as communication and the role of advocacy in creating a more inclusive world for individuals with autism. He encourages listeners to approach autism with curiosity, empathy, and love, advocating for a shift in perspective that celebrates differences rather than tolerating them.…

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Episode 240: Interview w/ Lydia McNeiley 39:10

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams speaks with Lydia McNeely, a lead professional learning specialist for Hatching Results, about her non-traditional journey in education and the vital role of school counselors. They discuss the current challenges facing school counselors, particularly regarding misconceptions about their roles, the importance of family engagement, and the need for community support in education. Lydia shares her experiences and insights on how to effectively support students and families, especially in immigrant communities, and emphasizes the importance of being intentional in outreach and engagement efforts. In this conversation, Lydia McNeiley and Charles Williams discuss the evolving role of school counselors, addressing misconceptions about their work and the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion in education. They emphasize the need for counselors to support all students and advocate for their needs, while also providing resources for parents and educators to better understand the counseling profession.…

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Episode 239: Pause to Ponder - Hey Batter Batter! 9:48

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In this episode, Charles Williams reflects on a transformative morning experience where he chose to listen to a baseball game instead of the usual news briefing. This decision led him to realize the importance of finding simple moments of joy and comfort in daily life, emphasizing the need to 'fill your bucket' with small, grounding experiences that can reset one's mood and perspective.…

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Episode 238: Interview w/ Julie Hasson 34:08

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams speaks with Dr. Julie Hasson about her journey in education, focusing on the importance of teacher resilience and engagement. They discuss the shift from external factors affecting teacher retention to the internal resources teachers need to thrive. Julie shares practical strategies for building resilience, the significance of self-check-ins, and the need for a culture of honesty in educational settings. The conversation also highlights the upcoming NCMLE conference and the sessions they will be leading.…

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Episode 237: Pause to Ponder - When The Noise Fades... 7:46

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In this episode, Charles Williams reflects on the current state of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) efforts, particularly in the context of a recent conference he attended. He discusses the noticeable decline in engagement and attendance at DEI-related events, questioning the authenticity of allyship in a changing political climate. Williams emphasizes the importance of standing up for DEI even when it is uncomfortable and the need for genuine commitment to these values beyond performative actions.…

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Episode 236: Interview w/ David James 29:18

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with David James, a dedicated seventh-grade social studies teacher and conference director for the North Carolina Association for Middle Level Education (NCMLE). They discuss the journey of educators, the significance of teacher leadership, and the impact of personalized professional development on student achievement. David shares insights from his experience in education, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, networking, and empowering teachers to take initiative in their roles. The conversation also highlights the upcoming NCMLE conference, which promises to be a valuable opportunity for educators to connect and grow. Register for NCMLE…

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Episode 235: Interview w/ Ismael Jimenez 32:01

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Ishmael Jimenez, who shares his journey into education and the importance of understanding historical context in teaching. They discuss the significance of Black history, the role of educators in challenging dominant narratives, and the need for truth in education. Ishmael emphasizes the importance of community engagement and the responsibility of educators to speak truthfully, even in the face of fear and societal pushback. The conversation concludes with recommendations for resources to deepen understanding of these issues and a call to action for listeners to engage with their communities.…

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Episode 234: The 2025 Black History Month Special 51:15

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages in a rich conversation with guests Leonard Webb and Vernon Wright. They explore the significance of Black History Month, the importance of storytelling, and the need to challenge the traditional narratives surrounding Black history. Leonard shares a personal story about his father, highlighting the complexities of race and identity, while Vernon emphasizes the importance of service and understanding one's purpose. Together, they aim to uplift voices and share experiences that resonate with the broader themes of resilience and cultural heritage. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the significance of names, identity, and the importance of preparing for life's challenges. They explore the historical context of Timbuktu, emphasizing the need to recognize and understand our roots. The discussion highlights the importance of empathy through understanding history and the role of narratives in shaping our perspectives. The speakers also stress the importance of passing knowledge and stories to future generations, encouraging a call to serve and uplift others.…

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Episode 233: Pause to Ponder - The Intersection of Progress and Patriotism 10:14

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams emphasizes the critical need to teach authentic history, particularly during Black History Month. He discusses the intersection of policies and problems, particularly in relation to immigration and the historical context of laws like the Fugitive Slave Act. Williams argues that understanding our shared history is essential for recognizing patterns that inform current societal issues. He calls for vigilance in education and community engagement to ensure that the full story is told, advocating for a more inclusive and honest approach to history that empowers future generations.…

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Episode 232: Interview w/ Maggie Broderick 28:28

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with educator Maggie Broderick to discuss the importance of belonging in education and the concept of 'oases'—hidden spaces within schools where students can find connection and support. They explore how these oases contribute to social emotional learning and the overall well-being of students, emphasizing the need for educators to be supported in their roles. The conversation highlights the impact of extracurricular activities and the necessity of preserving these vital spaces in the face of budget cuts and educational policies that prioritize standardized testing over holistic education.…

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Episode 231: Pause to Ponder - A Dream & A Contradiction 12:42

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on the significance of Martin Luther King Jr. Day coinciding with the inauguration of Donald Trump. He explores the contrasting legacies of King and Trump, emphasizing the importance of dialogue and the role of educators in promoting equity and inclusion. Williams challenges listeners to consider their contributions to King's dream and the necessity of aligning actions with values of justice, especially in the face of systemic barriers.…

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Episode 230: Interview w/Jose Moreno 32:03

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages with Jose Moreno, a former tech professional turned EdTech entrepreneur. They discuss the importance of challenging harmful narratives surrounding immigration, the impact of implicit bias in education, and the need for practical tools to support English Language Learners. Jose shares his personal story, highlighting the sacrifices of his mother and the misconceptions about immigrant families. The conversation emphasizes the role of technology in breaking down language barriers and improving educational outcomes for marginalized students.…

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Episode 229: Pause to Ponder - From Progress to Regression 11:31

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In this episode, Charles Williams discusses the recent rollback of DEI policies by major corporations like McDonald's, in light of the Supreme Court's ruling on affirmative action. He expresses concern over the implications for diversity and inclusion efforts, emphasizing that diversity is multifaceted and extends beyond race. Williams reflects on the irony of a woman in senior leadership representing the dismantling of policies that enabled her position. He highlights the historical struggles for equity and inclusion, expressing frustration over the current political climate but ultimately holding onto hope for progress.…

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Episode 228: Interview w/ Jennifer Abrams 32:35

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Jennifer Abrams about the significance of having hard conversations in educational settings. They explore the challenges of professional development, the necessity of adult development in schools, and the importance of emotional hygiene during professional learning. Jennifer shares her insights on how to navigate time constraints in PD sessions and emphasizes the need for intentionality in designing effective professional development experiences. The discussion also highlights the hunger for connection and meaningful learning among educators, and the resources available to support their growth.…

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Episode 227: Pause to Ponder - From Striving to Being 10:20

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In this final episode of the year, Charles Williams reflects on his personal journey, emphasizing the importance of letting go as a means of growth. He shares insights from his experiences, including a transformative trip to Denver, and discusses how embracing simplicity can lead to more meaningful connections in the upcoming year. The episode encourages listeners to consider what they can release to make room for new opportunities and to trust in their journey ahead.…

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Episode 226: The 2024 Holiday Episode 49:17

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Episode Summary In this holiday episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams is joined by co-authors of the book 'Grow Your Why' to discuss the significance of the holiday season, personal stories of growth, and the importance of connection. Each guest shares their unique contributions to the book, reflecting on their journeys and the impact of believing in oneself. The conversation also delves into cherished holiday traditions, the joy of food, and the memories that shape our experiences during this special time of year. In this engaging conversation, the participants share their cherished holiday memories and the traditions that shape their family gatherings. They reflect on the importance of music, food, and community in creating lasting connections. The discussion highlights how they carry on family traditions while also adapting and creating new ones, emphasizing the joy of togetherness and the impact of shared experiences.…

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Episode 225: Pause to Ponder - AI Beyond Academics 13:38

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams discusses the emerging trends in education, particularly focusing on the role of AI in addressing mental health challenges among students. He emphasizes the need to shift the conversation around AI from viewing it as a threat to recognizing its potential as a supportive tool for emotional well-being. Williams highlights the importance of providing personalized AI companions for students, while also addressing concerns about equity and the human element in education. He challenges listeners to rethink how AI can enhance student support and contribute to holistic education.…

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Episode 224: Interview w/ Holly O'Hern 29:21

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams engages in a deep conversation with Holly O'Hern, a leadership development expert and certified Dare to Lead facilitator. They explore the importance of self-care in leadership, the courage to be vulnerable, and the transformative power of community engagement. Holly shares her journey from corporate America to becoming a solopreneur, emphasizing the need for leaders to prioritize their well-being to effectively support others. The discussion highlights practical strategies for self-care and the significance of building connections within communities. Key Takeaways Self-care is essential for effective leadership. Courage is necessary to embrace vulnerability. Connection with others enhances personal growth. Engaging in community work can provide new perspectives. Practicing vulnerability builds trust and authenticity. Mental health should be integrated into workplace culture. Leaders must prioritize their own needs to support others. Transformation often comes from embracing messiness. Creating new neural pathways through practice is vital. It's okay to ask for help and seek accountability.…

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Episode 223: Pause to Ponder - Defying Gravity 11:12

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on the transformative power of theater and the song 'Defying Gravity' from Wicked. He explores themes of personal growth, the importance of standing firm in one's values, and the challenges faced in advocacy and equity work. Through personal anecdotes and insights, he encourages listeners to embrace their truth, defy societal expectations, and inspire others to rise.…

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Episode 222: Interview w/ Dr. Chris Culver 30:06

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, host Charles Williams speaks with Dr. Christopher Culver about his journey in education, the importance of kindness and empathy, and strategies for fostering a positive school culture. Dr. Culver shares insights on the differences between Gen Z and Gen Alpha, the impact of social media on youth, and the significance of mindfulness and gratitude in educational settings. He emphasizes the need for educators to create spaces where students feel valued and connected, and offers practical tips for integrating kindness into daily routines. Key Takeaways Dr. Culver emphasizes the importance of kindness in education. He believes that life is happening for us, not to us. Creating spaces of kindness is essential for student well-being. Self-kindness is as important as kindness to others. Educators must recognize the positives in students. Mindfulness and gratitude can transform classroom dynamics. Dr. Culver's research focuses on school culture and teacher retention. Understanding generational differences is crucial for educators. Empathy has declined since the pandemic, necessitating a renewed focus. Building trust and relationships is key to effective education.…

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Episode 221: Pause to Ponder - My Birthday 10:38

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In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on his personal journey of celebrating his birthday after a decade of avoidance. He explores the themes of survivor guilt related to the loss of loved ones, particularly his grandparents, and the impact of codependency on self-worth and celebration. Through his reflections, he emphasizes the importance of embracing joy and self-love as a means to honor those we've lost and to break free from cycles of guilt and self-neglect. Charles encourages listeners to recognize their own worthiness of happiness and to celebrate themselves.…

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Episode 220: Interview w/ George Couros 47:08

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Episode Summary In this engaging conversation, Charles Williams and George Couros explore the themes of innovation in education, the importance of critical thinking, and the role of technology in the classroom. They discuss the challenges educators face in seeking quick fixes and the necessity of fostering a culture of inquiry and reflection. Couros emphasizes the need for meaningful professional development and the importance of teaching students to navigate technology responsibly. The discussion culminates in a reflection on leadership's role in driving educational change and the value of depth over breadth in learning. Innovation in education should not solely rely on technology. Educators must reflect on their practices and adapt to better serve students. Critical thinking should be encouraged in both students and educators. Professional development should be meaningful and tailored to educators' needs. Teaching responsible technology use is crucial for student success. Depth of knowledge in a few areas is more beneficial than superficial knowledge in many. Leadership plays a vital role in fostering an innovative educational environment. Educators should focus on creating engaging learning experiences for students. The importance of collaboration and sharing ideas among educators cannot be overstated. Educators should model the behaviors they wish to see in their students.…

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Episode 219: Pause to Ponder - Leading by Example 7:52

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles Williams reflects on his journey as an educator and leader, emphasizing the importance of leading by example. He shares insights gained from observing both effective and ineffective leaders, highlighting that true leadership is rooted in human connection, integrity, and consistency. Williams discusses the impact of leaders' choices on team trust and the significance of embodying the values they wish to instill in their teams. He challenges listeners to consider the legacy they want to leave and the environment they wish to create through their actions. Key Takeaways Leadership is shaped by observing others. Leading by example is a powerful form of leadership. Authenticity in leadership inspires teams. Leadership is about human connection, not just strategy. Consistency is critical in leading by example. Integrity must align with stated values. Leaders' choices impact team trust. Building a culture that endures is essential. Reflect on the values that matter most to you. Leadership starts with everyday actions.…

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Episode 218: Interview w/ Lead by Learning 37:09

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Summary In this episode of the Counter Narrative podcast, host Charles Williams engages with Jennifer Ahn and Sarah Sugarman from Lead by Learning, discussing the importance of collaborative learning in education. They explore the myth of certainty that often hinders educators' growth and the need for a culture of public learning and supportive challenge. The conversation highlights success stories from their work, emphasizing the significance of teacher agency and sustainable change in educational practices. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own practices and consider practical steps to foster a collaborative environment in their schools. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to Lead by Learning 06:28 - The Myth of Certainty in Education 14:32 - The Importance of Collaborative Learning 18:38 - Success Stories: Transforming Educational Practices 22:06 - Building Sustainable Change in Education 28:25 - Practical Steps for Educators 33:19 - Connecting with Lead by Learning…

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Episode 217: Pause to Ponder - Can We Truly Quantify Knowledge? 11:16

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In this reflective episode, Charles dives into a thought-provoking question: Can we truly quantify knowledge? He shares personal stories, insights, and recent experiences that highlight the complexity of using data to measure student growth and achievement. From percentile bands in student screeners to rising AP exam scores, Charles examines whether we’re celebrating real progress or merely adjusting standards to make it appear so. Along the way, he explores the potential influence of College Board, U.S. News & World Report, and the commercialization of education in shaping our perceptions of student success.…

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Episode 216: Interview w/ Erik Francis 53:26

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Episode 215: Pause to Ponder - Battling "Grubs" in Our School Culture 10:50

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In this episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, Charles shares a humorous yet insightful story about his summer battle with yard grubs and how it relates to deeper issues within school culture. He explores the dangers of focusing on superficial fixes while ignoring the root problems that can slowly erode a school’s foundation. Tune in as Charles provides three practical strategies for addressing the “grubs” in your school and fostering a healthy, vibrant culture that lasts.…

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Episode 214: Interview w/ Daniel Wendler 44:45

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Episode 213: Pause to Ponder - Emotional Hygiene & Pollution 13:59

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In this episode of The Counter Narrative Podcast, I take a moment to reflect on the importance of emotional hygiene and how unchecked emotions can lead to emotional pollution in our schools and relationships. Inspired by a session with Jennifer Abrams, author of Stretching Your Learning Edges, I explore how these two concepts can impact our classrooms and staff rooms, using Pigpen from Peanuts as a metaphor for the emotional “dust” we carry. Tune in as I share practical steps to maintain emotional hygiene, build healthier school environments, and foster more meaningful connections with students and colleagues.…

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In this compelling episode, I sit down with renowned educator and passionate speaker, Sawsan Jaber, to delve into a topic that's as sensitive as it is crucial: the impact of the ongoing crisis in Gaza on Palestinian students in America, against the backdrop of school districts' responses to international conflicts. At a time when Illinois, home to one of the highest concentrations of Palestinian students in the country, has seen school letters openly supporting Israel, we explore the discord between the principles of Equity and unbiased education and the realities faced by these students. Sawsan Jaber, a voice of reason and empathy, does not shy away from addressing the elephant in the room. She questions the message sent by educational institutions when they appear to support actions that many interpret as profoundly unjust. Through her lens as an educator and as the child of refugees who personally experienced the ravages of conflict in Palestine, Sawsan offers a perspective seldom heard in mainstream media or educational discourse. This episode is not just a critique but a journey towards understanding. Sawsan calls out the hypocrisy she observes in political and educational circles, urging for a more inclusive approach to handling sensitive geopolitical issues within the educational sphere. She also outlines pathways for listeners to gain a more nuanced understanding of the situation, advocating for a dialogue that respects the diverse backgrounds of students and their families. Join me for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges us to reflect on the role of education in times of conflict and the importance of fostering an environment that truly embodies the ideals of equity and inclusivity.…

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Episode 217: Pause to Ponder - Can We Truly Quantify Knowledge?