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Book Overflow

Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups

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In a world of short-form content, it's important to engage with long-form ideas. Book Overflow is a podcast created for software engineers, by software engineers to discuss the best technical books in the world. Join co-hosts Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups each week as they discuss a new technical book! New episodes every Monday!
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It is a podcast where friends Jaime, Moe, Nathan & Joe react to crazy stuff on the internet and have honest conversations while budding heads. Come hang out and join the conversation. New episodes drop every Monday.
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20/20 MONEY

Adam Cmejla

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20/20 MONEY, hosted by Certified Financial Planner and experienced Wealth Adviser Adam Cmejla, aims to bring clarity to financial concepts and strategies that impact optometrists. For more information on the show and on Adam, please visit https://www.integratedpwm.com/
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Rebecca Parsons joins Carter and Nathan to discuss her book Building Evolutionary Architectures. Join them as Rebecca shares her thoughts on the benefits of abstractions, how the computer science industry has changed during her tenure, and how her academic work on genetic algorithms influenced the book! -- …
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Part Two of The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim. Written in the style of a novel, join them as they discuss the protagonist Maxine's journey of transforming the failing Phoenix Project from a big ball of mud into an agile, efficient architecture! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- Note: As …
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Bethany Fishbein, OD, Consultant & Executive Coach with Leaders of Vision. Bethany and I talk about a topic that an OD might not think about directly correlating to the financials of a practice: leadership skills. However, I believe that we quickly illustrate in our conversatio…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Martin Fowler joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code. Join them as Martin shares why he wrote Refactoring, how the art of refactoring has changed, and how he views the book's legacy!https://martinfowler.com/-- Books Mentioned in this Episode --Note: As…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Michael Neal, OD. Michael joins me back on the show to discuss bonus structures that work for non-producing members of your team, and how they can be put together in a way that is advantageous to both the team member and the overall growth of the practice. As a reminder, you ca…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the part one of The Unicorn Project by Gene Kim. Written in the style of a novel, join them as they discuss the protagonist Maxine's journey of being assigned to a failing project, working within a maddening bureaucracy, fighting for easy local development! -- Books Mentioned in this Episo…
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In this episode, we break down why the Federal Reserve decided to cut interest rates by 0.5% (50 basis points) and what it signals about the economy. More importantly, we dive into actionable steps that optometry practice owners can take to benefit from these lower rates while preparing for potential economic shifts. Resources: 20/20 Money Communit…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss the second half of Slow Productivty by MIT-educated computer scientist and productivity expert Cal Newport. Join them as they discuss what it means to work at a natural pace, how to obsess over quality, and the useful tactics Cal Newport recommends to do both! -- Books Mentioned in this Ep…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by Neal Ford as he reflects on his book Building Evolutionary Architectures. Join them as they discuss the inspiration for the book, the process of writing it with three other co-authors, and how Neal envisions the future of software architecture! ---------------- S…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Kurt Steele, OD. Kurt joins me back on the show to talk in further detail how he and his partners have structured their compensation structure in a way that works for everyone in the practice while also ensuring that there is parity in comp based on the amount of revenue that e…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter and Nathan discuss Slow Productivty by MIT-educated computer scientist and productivity expert Cal Newport. Join them as they discuss how to avoid burnout, how to balance ambition with stamina, and useful productivity hacks Cal Newport recommends! -- Books Mentioned in this Episode -- To see a full list of b…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Adrienne Braganza joins Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups to reflect on her book, "Looks Good To Me." Join them as they discuss what motivated her to learn so much about code reviews, the process of becoming an author, and what motivated her to become a software engineer in the first place!-- Books Mentioned i…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Nathan Hayes from Books & Benchmarks. Nathan joins me back on the show to talk all things business financials and how owners should be thinking about actual profit in a business—and where to look in your business financials to learn how much money the practice has actually provided…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups sit down with Stephen Wolfram to discuss his book What Is ChatGPT Doing... And Why Does It Work? Tune in as he discusses his initial experiments with OpenAI, how his early work in particle physics influenced his current work with LLMs, and his thoughts on if ChatGPT is truly i…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Chris Tuff. Chris is the author of the book The Millennial Whisperer and in this conversation we talk about all things related to leading a team. As one might expect, a lot of the conversation that we had is applicable to leading all team members—not just Millennials. We talk about…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan toups discuss "Looks Good To Me" by Adrienne Braganza. Join them as they discuss everything about code reviews, including automation, team procedures, and more! Carter on For Your Amusement: https://youtu.be/rhdyrTXbvlg?si=9csVUrBEWonG40VY To get links to the books mentioned in this episode…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carl Brown (of the YouTube channel Internet of Bugs) joins Carter and Nathan to share some of his favorite books! Carl is incredibly well read and shares which books have influenced him over his very impressive 35 year career. To get links to the books mentioned in this episode, check the YouTube episode de…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is David Mason, Ph.D. David joins me on the show to talk about a seemingly abstract but important distinction that you should consider when thinking about your team: do you have satisfied team members or engaged team members? Our conversation spills over into multiple different topics…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Building Evolutionary Architectures" by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, and Pramod Sadalage. Join them as they discuss how to evolve your data schema, modern DevOps practices, and common architectural pitfalls and antipatterns.…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups sit down with Scott Tolinski, the host of the web development podcast Syntax. Join the three of them as they discuss Scott's favorite books, his career as a developer, and what you can learn by being a voracious reader! Links to all the books discussed in the episode can be fo…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan toups discuss "Building Evolutionary Architecture" by Neal Ford, Rebecca Parsons, Patrick Kua, and Pramod Sadalage. Join them as they discuss how the approaches to designing software architecture have changed over the years, the purpose of fitness functions, and how trying to re-use code ca…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dennis Moseley Williams. Dennis joins me to revisit the importance of the customer experience on the success of your practice. He shares the five phases of the patient experience and how to think differently about the way you engage your patients in your practice. I really love hav…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups interview Apple Design Award Winner Devin Davies! Devin won the Apple Design Award for his recipe app Crouton, which was featured prominently by the Wall Street Journal for its creative use of the visionOS platform. In keeping with the podcast theme of continuous education, Devin tell…
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Today's episode is a bit special because I'm FINALLY able to announce that the 20/20 Money Membership is live! The beginning of the show is a walk-through of the membership, the offering, who it's for, and why I created it. One IMPORTANT item that I didn't share in the episode: join the Membership by September 30th using promo code FOUNDER and get …
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Recoding America: Why Government Is Failing in the Digital Age and How We Can Do Better" by Jennifer Pahlka. This book was personally recommended by Brian Kernighan and is about what processes and cultures make government technology so woefully inadequate. Join Carter and Nat…
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In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups are joined by the prolific Robert "Uncle Bob" Martin to discuss his book "Clean Coder." Join them as Uncle Bob talks about his thoughts on the "flow zone," humility, and what coding has to do with flying an airplane! Links to all the books mentioned in the episode can be …
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups finish up their discussion of "Web Scalability for Startup Engineers" by Artur Ejsmont. Join them as they discuss caching strategies, async messaging, and managing burnout in your career!Book Overflow is a podcast for software engineers, by software engineers dedicated to improving ou…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Justin Kwon, OD. Justin joins me on the show to talk all things myopia control. Justin’s passion for this topic is very evident and I found our conversation very informative. While there’s the obvious clinical angle that is a deeper and separate discussion than what we had here…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Michael Feathers joins Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups to reflect on his book "Working Effectively with Legacy Code." Join them as they discuss the pros and cons of TDD, the dangers of AI hallucination, and why Michael became a software engineer!
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Dr. Chris Lopez. Chris joined me back on the show to talk about all things related to the associate OD/owner OD relationships. As the career consultant at ODs on Finance, Chris has a unique perspective and gives us insight on the conversations he has been having with both associate…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Dr. John Ousterhout joins Carter and Nathan to discuss his book "A Philosophy of Software Design." He reflects on why he wrote the book, how he teaches the principles in it to his Stanford students, and what we can learn from our mistakes. --------------- 00:00 Intro 01:18 Motivation for writing this book 0…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Pete Kehoe, OD. Pete joins me back on the show to discuss all the hard lessons he and his team have recently learned while they navigated their practice being shut down due to a massive ice storm that destroyed a large portion of the building's roof. Pete shares more about the head…
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In this episode of Book Overflow, Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss the second half of "Working Effectively with Legacy Code" by Michael Feathers. Join them as they discuss how to keep up a good attitude while working on legacy code, how to get started when you're intimidated, and some of the legacy and greenfield projects they've worked on in…
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In this special episode of Book Overflow, Neal Ford joins the podcast to reflect on his book "Fundamentals of Software Architecture!" Join Carter and Nathan as they discuss the challenges of compromising with the business, what shifts AI is bringing to the software architecture world, and what sci-fi Neal's been reading lately!…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is John Marvin President of Texas State Optical. As one of the country’s oldest optometry business models, TSO has seen many different headwinds and tailwinds that have impacted optometry. As President of TSO over the past 20 years, John has seen TSO grow into one of the top 10 retail…
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Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups read and discuss the first half of "Working Effectively with Legacy Code" by Michael Feathers. Join them as they reflect on dependency inversion, the importance of interfaces, and continue their never-ending debate on the pros and cons of Test-Driven Development! (The audio gets a little de-synced in the last three mi…
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In this very special episode of Book Overflow, Dr. Brian Kernighan, the author of "The Practice of Programming" joins us to discuss his experience writing the book! Tune in as he talks about his experience at Bell Labs, what it was like co-authoring the book with Rob Pike, his thoughts on LLMs and the future of programming, and more! 00:00 - Intro …
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Tim Merrigan with Acquios Advisors. In the 16 years or so that I’ve been an advisor, I’ve noticed that there’s something “motivating” about turning 50: people start thinking about their lives differently and thus they start re-evaluating the way they’ve been investing and spending …
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Mike Jorgenson with Carr Healthcare Realty. Mike joins me back on the show to give us an update on what he and his team around the country are seeing in the commercial real estate market. We also dive into some of the considerations, mistakes, and blind spots that both buyers and s…
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This week Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups finished reading "Fundamentals of Software Architecture" by Mark Richards and Neal Ford. They provide an overview of their favorite architectures from the book as well as discuss the importance of soft skills in selling your technical vision!
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Eugene Shatsman, Managing Partner of National Strategic Group and new host of The Power Hour Podcast. In this wide-reaching marketing conversation, Eugene shares a variety of “low hanging marketing fruit” mistakes and misconceptions that practice owners nationwide have about how ma…
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This week Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups read the first half of "Fundamentals of Software Architecture" by Mark Richards and Neal Ford. They discuss what exactly software architecture is, how everything is a trade-off, and how we can keep our architectural skills sharp as software engineers. You don't want to miss this great discussion!…
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Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss Stephen Wolfram's excellent primer on ChatGPT! An incredibly dense work, they briefly summarize its key takeaways, talk about whether or ChatGPT is truly intelligent, and reflect on how their views of the current AI landscape have changed after reading this book. Enjoy!…
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Welcome to this episode of 20/20 Money! My guest on today’s show is Amber Morgan, CPA with Mohr CPAs. In the wake of tax season, Amber and I run through some of the easy and conspicuous action items that you can take proactively over the year that not only will have a positive impact on your overall tax planning, but also make for a happy and produ…
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Carter Morgan and Nathan Toups discuss "Refactoring: Improving the Design of Existing Code" by Martin Fowler. Join them as they talk about the importance of automated testing when refactoring, how to play nice, and how refactoring can be justified as a business consideration!
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