The Waiting List Podcast is hosted by three watch geeks: Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum and Lung Lung Thun. We can‘t say we are the most knowledgeable collectors but one thing we do have is a passion to grow the watch community and bring positive vibes! Chill out while we discuss trending topics within the watch industry, interview collectors and have a bit of fun! Reach out to us via email at info@thewaitinglistpodcast.com and also our Instagram page @thewaitinglistpodcast.
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#215-"I've touched vintage pieces before but I've been burnt"- John, Collector
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In this episode we speak to John @watch.academics about working with lab rats, why he chose Panerai as his first luxury watch and "interesting" shopping experiences.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#214-"I'm so much happier now than I was in the bubble COVID yeras because things make sense"- Eric Gustafson, Founder of Hairspring
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In this episode we speak to Eric, founder of Hairspring @hairspringwatches about the differences between collectors from the US, Europe, and Asia, using his platform as a medium to bridge together the watch community through his great "Finds" and how we can all maintain our passion for this hobby when you feel like you've seen everything.…
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#213- GPHG 2024 - Dan, Jac, Lung
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It's that time of the year again! Join us as we vote for 2024's GPHG nominees.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#212- The Quiet Club Part 2- Norifumi Seki, Watchmaker
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Norifumi Seki (@aysopos_jal) won the Young Talent Competition hosted by F.P. Journe and the AHCI in 2020. He has since joined founders HK Ueda and Johnny Ting to launch Quiet Club's first watch called Fading Hours. Please go back and listen to Part 1 to hear their whole journey.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#211- "I'd love to get my art into the hands of ppl who inspired me in all the seasons of my life"- LABEG (Gabe Lau), Artist
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On this episode we speak to Gabe @LABEG on living his dream of becoming an artist, why he chose to work with cardboard, his dream collab, and his watches.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#210- "I literally brought coins...i would listen to the quality of the sound"- H.K. & Johnny, Founders of Quiet Club
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The Quiet Club (@quietclub_watches) is a watch brand designed and handcrafted in Tokyo. On this episode we speak to the brand's founders about their first model- 'Fading Hours' and it's alarm function operated by a mechanical gong.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#209- "I have this weird theory about the datograph"- Rich @watchbiao, Collector
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On this episode we speak to Rich @watchbiao about the Alange Datograph, his collecting journey and his thoughts about living in the US versus living in China.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#208- AITAH - Dan, Jac, Lung
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On this episode we discuss growing up in a Chinese family and more.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#207- Random musings - Dan, Jac, Lung
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We've been having a lot of random thoughts lately and just thought we would share them all with you guys.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#206- "I hate watches that under utilize the case real estate"-Charles, Collector
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In this episode we speak to Charles about his watch collecting philosophy, why he has shifted to visiting dealers and auction houses over ADs, and why Patek salons operate very differently from other retailers.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#205- "Hunting the ads...it almost replaces the need to have the watches"-Nick, Founder of Ad Patina
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In this episode we speak to Nick about his vintage watch ad business Ad Patina @adpatina , how he turned a passion into a business, the similarities between his work and those of watch dealers, and the golden age of advertisements.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#204- Auction Insights- Dan, Jac, Lung
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On this episode we discuss the art of auctioneering, auction results and insights.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#203- "I just love gifting it puts a smile on my face"-Cameron Steiner, Collector and Host of Collectors Gene Radio
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In this episode we welcome back Cameron @cameronrosssteiner , host of Collectors Gene Radio. We discuss the importance of gifting, what the guests on his podcast are collecting and what watches he will be wearing the most in the near future.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#202- Watches and Wonders 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung
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The title explains it all. Enjoy!Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#Bonus Episode- ONLY WATCH 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung
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Heres an extra episode just in time for Only Watch. Which pieces did you guys like the most?Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#200- Episode 200! -Dan, Jac, Lung
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Episode 200!! Thank you all for coming along with us on this journey. We are grateful for all the great connections we've made and all the interesting people we get to speak to. It still blows our mind that you guys tune in and support us. Thank you!Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#199- "OMG for that price I can have 5 people walking around telling me the time"- Gaurav R, Collector
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On this episode we speak to Gaurav (@highendtime) about all things Daniel Roth and whether the brand will ever be a Patek contender. We discuss Gaurav's own collecting journey and why he still appreciates unique and rare Roth pieces.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#198- "Its faster for me to go from Geneva to Dubai than to reach his workshop"- Shahz Khan, Founder of Salon Des Horlogers/K2 Luxury
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On this episode we speak to Shahz (@salondeshorlogers) about creating Salon Des Horlogers after establishing a reputable name for himself in the watch world after building up K2 Luxury. We discuss the independents and why it is necessary to have a platform dedicated to this growing niche market.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#197- "We identified 250 features that affect the price of a watch"- Giovanni Prigigallo, Founder of EveryWatch
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On this episode we speak to Giovanni (@everywatch_official) about creating a platform that tracks over 30 years of watch data, the correlation between case sizes and value, and how the platform will change watch collectors’ experiences.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#196- "When I design a watch...I design the relationship you will have with that watch"- Benoit Mintiens, Founder of Ressence Watches
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On this episode we speak to Benoit (@ressence_watches) about his industrial design background and how it has shaped the way he has created watches. We also discuss how the idea of using oil came about, why a Ressence watch has no hands and how the E Crown came about.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#195- "Hong Kong used to be the centre of watchmaking, theres just no record of that"- Quinn Lai, Founder of DIY Watch Club and EONIQ Watches
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On this episode we speak to Quinn about how he came up with the concepts for both his ventures (@diywatchclub and @eoniqdesign) , the value of "made in Hong Kong", how he balances business with passion and the struggles of running a microbrand.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#194-"I don't think they had in mind that people would be collecting these pieces"- Luis, Collector
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In this episode, we speak to Luis @movado_archive about the four different significant periods in Movado's history, the most collectible Movado pieces and the 331 movement.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#193- "I think the best collections were built in the last 20 years"- John Goldberger, Collector and Author
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In this episode we speak to John @goldberger about the three most important people you need in your watch journey, how he collects, what he thinks about his own collection, and his favorite modern Cartier.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#192- "A real negotiation...me scoring big...those are the videos I like best"- Mike Nouveau, Vintage Watch Specialist
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In this episode we speak to Mike about the success hes had on TikTok and Instagram, what the dealer code is, what collectors are asking for, and his ultimate 3 watch collection.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#191- "A lot of retailers, after the pandemic, emphasized on "the journey" " -Luo Yong Wen, Collector
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In this episode we speak to Yong Wen about his first watch, the Omega Seamaster, going on Patek's factory tour and why the brand remains the most special to him.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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HAPPY CNY! Woohoo!Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#189- Watch talk - Dan, Jac
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On this episode Dan and Jac talk all things watches, watch fairs, and what they have seen lately.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#188- "The lowest of the hierarchy...the cataloger"- Gertrude Wong, Phillips Auction Watches Cohead of Sales
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On this episode we speak to Gertrude @g.wwh about her perspective on the auction world, what she has learned, and what she enjoys the most about her job.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#187- ”I wanted something that had character, something completely different”- Jackie Ho, Collector
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On this episode we speak to Jackie about his Irish background, what he learned from collecting vintage Rolex, his interest in independents and why he decided to start a watch group- Watchhoandco.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#186- ”a lot of AD sales were super cool about it, ”its cool youre a dealer” ” – Alex Lau, Founder of The Horologist
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On this episode we speak to Alex about how he transitioned from being a collector to becoming a dealer. What it has been like dealing in Hong Kong, running his business The Horologist @thehorologisthk, the dangers and safety in this industry.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#185 Merry Xmas and Happy New Year ! - Dan, Jac, Lung
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Just 3 more days till the end of 2023. We love you all for tuning in and giving us all the support and motivation to keep doing this. We are grateful to be able to interview so many special guests and we can't wait to see you guys in 2024. Happy holidays !Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#184- ”The kind of collector that intrigues me are the ones that focus on their own niche” – Helbert Tsang, Cofounder of The Horology Club
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On this episode we speak to Helbert about his most memorable gathering, collectors that interest him, the watch community in Hong Kong and his love for independents.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#183- ”We felt it was important to have plurality in terms of news” – Allen Farmelo & William Massena, Founders of The Watch Space
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On this episode we speak to Allen and William about their new app The Watch Space, why we need to take a broader approach to watch journalism and what they hope to achieve with this app. Click to download the app here https://www.thewatchspace.net/Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#182- ”I had to be extremely stubborn to make this happen...every supplier was trying to gently advise me not to do it” – Slyvain Berneron, Founder of Berneron watches
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On this episode we speak to Slyvain about the launch of Berneron watches, how he juggles both being a watch brand founder and being a full time creative director at Breitling. We also discuss the challenges he faced designing his first piece-the Mirage.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#181- ”You don’t want to look back on a book full of regrets” – Todd Searle, Author, Creative Director, Collector
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On this episode we speak to Todd about his book 32 Regrets, how to discover the creativity in you and how to live a life without regrets. Todd has kindly offered our listeners a free compact version of the book that you guys can access immediately at https://creativity.ftscreates.com . Click the link to start your creative journey!…
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#180- ”We wanted to provide that safe protected environment for ladies to come in” – Deborah Wong & Stephanie Soh, Collectors and Founders of Ticktockbelles
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On this episode we talk to Deb and Steph about the similarities between fashion and watches, building a female community, and their watch collecting philosophy.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#179- Poop talk – Dan, Jac, Lung
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Jac shares big news this episode and we exchange stories about poop.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#178- “I want to create something...that feeling of cretaing is how it all started” – Amrita Katara, Editor of Tatler GMT Hong Kong
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In this episode we speak to Amrita on how Harry Potter inspired her to write, the influence Bollywood has on the watch industry, and the power of social media in modern journalism.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#177- “A product doesn’t define a business” – Ken Kuan, Founder of Delugs
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In this episode we speak to Ken on how he turned a side hustle into a full blown business, why he enjoys studying other entrepreneurs' journeys and the possibility of running his own watch club.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#176- “You couldn’t differentiate the man from the artist” – Evelyne and Alexia Genta, Wife & Daughter of Gerald Genta
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In this episode we speak to Evelyne and Alexia about how Gerald saw the world as an artist, his love for nature and architecture, what he would be designing had he been based in Italy or France, and of course- the Royal Oak and Nautilus.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#175- “The most difficult thing I find from a design perspective are the entry level pieces...” – Ming Thein, Cofounder of MING Watches
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In this episode we speak to Ming about how thinking out of the box keeps him creative, how he built MING, novelties, and his vision for the brand.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#174- “Two years ago I had better things to do than look at pieces of metal” – Johnathan Chan, Cofounder of The Horology Club
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In this episode, we speak to Johnathan about his vision for The Horology Club, how he intends to provide an educational angle and continue to make this hobby more inclusive.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#173- “Librarians like to say cataloging is an art, not a science” – Dr Miranda Marraccini, Librarian
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In this episode, we speak to Miranda about what it is like to run the library at the Horological Society of New York and why we should all go down for a visit.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#172- REAL TALK – Dan, Jac, Lung
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Time for a much needed catch up!Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#171- “The market cap is extremely important in preserving the brands in this industry” – Samuel Naldi, Pen collector and more
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In this episode, we speak to Samuel about the pen industry’s landscape and the resemblance it has to the quartz crisis, whether pens are investment worthy, and what makes a good pen.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#170- “They wont readily admit this came from the Americans” – Joshua Shapiro, Founder of J.N.Shapiro watches
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In this episode, we speak to Josh about the impact of American watch making, similiarities between iPhones and pocket watches and the inspiration behind the basket weave design.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#169- “Launching in China was an absolutely shitty idea” – Robin Tallendier, Co-founder of Atelier Wen
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In this episode, we speak to Robin about the concept behind Atelier Wen, the meaning of its name, the difficulties of launching the brand and breaking the news to his father.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#168- “The worst watches I worked on came from the 2000s” – Gael & Florian, Founders of Petermann Bedat
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In this episode, we speak to Gael Petermann and Florian Bedat about the birth of their brand, who is rational one amongst the two, and the collaboration with Auffret for Only Watch 2023.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#167- “My passion, you can see it on my face” – Kevin O’Dell, Collector
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In this episode, we speak to Kevin (@theydid) about how his dad's decision to get him a job at a pawnshop led to the passion he has for watches today.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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#166- “You really have to turn over stock to make it work” – Ben, Founder of Watch Brothers London
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In this episode, we speak to Ben @watchbrotherslondon about growing his business in the competitive secondary market, underrated brands we should look out for and more.Kirjoittanut Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun
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