Hydrogen Trucks Through The Lens of a 9 Year Old

BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Podcast

Jon Summers is the Motoring Historian. He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into a fairly inept sports bike rider. On his show he gets together with various co-hosts to talk about new and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, motoring travel.

• Jerry Reed - East Bound and Down
• J & Son attend the opening of the world’s first big rig hydrogen station, with associated government and electric truck razzamatazz
• The Press Conference and a digression on nomenclature
• What colour is “pickle”? An existential discussion
• The First Element dude
• The Carb Lady
• The Hyundai dude (with the waistcoat that rode up)
• A Good Question from the LA Times; how clean is the wrap around technology?
• The Cummins rep and people who leave the rock show before the encore is over
• J’s digression on getting stuck in muddy car parks at Silverstone, and sleeping in the company Vectra
• O’s digression on his favorite car - Texaco/Havoline Porsche 962 and Joe’s Soft Serve
• “The Science Bit”, which J didn’t understand “A dude with a beard and no hair…..and a bunch of pipes in a shipping container”
• O operates the Actual Gas Pump for Hydrogen
• O mocks his father’s skills with Podcastle
• True Zero
• Hyundai
• Nikola - which requires a different pump attachment to “hydrogen up”
• J chat’s with Hyundai rep: “why now?”
• Hydrogen is not competing with Diesel, rather with BEVs for last mile/fixed routes, because -
• 400-500 miles range (diesel trucks might do 800/day)
• Better Payload
• Faster refueling
• Better vs. natural disasters
• The hydrogen station as a single point of failure; may work for some fleet applications, but not right for over the road owner driver truckers
• Visual bait and switch - looks like a cabover sleeper truck, but actually what looks like the sleeper hides the hydrogen tanks/. Which “look like missiles”.
• “If California is to meet it’s zero emissions goal in 2046, hydrogen must be part of the solution”
• So how fully baked is this? J was less convinced after a drive around the Port of Oakland and chatting with real truckers
• O reviews the two trucks; Nikola seemed far more wholistic, next generational design, while the Hyundai felt more of the parts bin special it is.
• The game changer of one pedal driving; O feels he could drive it, J feels we are very close to autonomy
• The challenge is clearly around the delivery of hydrogen, not the trucks
• J feels soon the smell and noise of diesel will soon be like cigarette smoke in bars - recently gone, and already forgotten
• Rainbow - Man On The Silver Mountain

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