7. Judith Finell: Forensic Musicologist, Expert Witness in Milestone Music Infringement Cases -- on AI, Sampling, "Blurred Lines," and "The Intersection of Music, Technology and Law"

Brenton Hund Podcast

What's it like sitting in the hot seat, the witness stand, testifying as the musical expert at one of the most talked about music infringement cases in recent memory? Let’s find out...

Our guest in this episode is Judith Finell. Judith testified on behalf of the Marvin Gaye family in the milestone “Blurred Lines” case in federal court as an expert witness, something she’s been doing for 25 years.

She is president of Judith Finell Music Services Inc, a boutique consulting firm with clients ranging from the Beastie Boys to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, to household name labels, publishers and media companies. She leads a team of doctoral level musicologists -- based in New York, LA, and Europe -- most of whom are on the faculties of renowned conservatories and also perform and appear widely as musicians and scholars.

Judith is a classically trained pianist with a masters in musicology. She’s a writer, public speaker, consultant, and professor, and she currently teaches the first course on forensic musicology in the country at UCLA.

In this episode Judith and I get into the weeds on everything from artificial intelligence to sampling and Blurred Lines, to playing piano on the radio at age 6. Join me as we find out more about Judith Finell...

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JUDITH FINELL
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1. Theme and Introduction (00:00:00)

2. What is Forensic Musicology? (00:02:24)

3. Learning Piano / Perfect Pitch (00:05:24)

4. "The intersection of music, technology and law" (00:14:10)

5. Sampling / "Hold it Now, Hit It" (00:27:26)

6. Substantial Similarity / Copyright Infringement (00:39:14)

7. Blurred Lines Case (00:58:55)

8. What's the Break Room Like at Her Company?! (01:33:16)

9. Artificial Intelligence (01:35:13)

10. Thank You! / Closing Theme (01:44:05)