US-China Technological Decoupling

Hopkins Podcast on Foreign Affairs

In recent years, growing tensions between the US and China have spurred increasing interest and action to “decouple” US and China’s economic and technological ecosystems. This is evident in the increased use of technology restrictions, from export controls to sanctions and visa bans. And while there appears to be bipartisan support for technological decoupling in general, an exact strategy and course of action are yet to be defined. So, which technologies should be controlled? And to what degree? How can the US define a clear strategy to curb technological interdependence with China while avoiding the pitfalls of doing too much or too little? In this episode, I’m joined by Mr. Jon Bateman to discuss these questions.

Jon Bateman is a senior fellow at the Cyber Policy Initiative of the Technology and International Affairs Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Previously, Jon has served as director for cyber strategy implementation in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He recently published the report, “US-China Technological Decoupling: A Strategy and Policy Framework.”

U.S.-China Technological Decoupling

Episode Credits:

Editor: Leo Kamer

Host: Julia An