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Learn. Grow. Inspire. A podcast on Finance People, for Finance People, by Finance People. Celebrate the Profession and the Professionals in the world of Finance with Rohit Agarwal, Tech Entrepreneur, ex-CFO, and ex-investment banker. These unsung heroes mostly remain under the limelight but contribute tremendously towards company building. We endeavor to unpack their journeys to understand what moves them, get inspired by their triumphs, learn from their experiences, and, most of all, connect with them at a personal level. https://www.strategyoffinance.com/
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Learn. Grow. Inspire. A podcast on Finance People, for Finance People, by Finance People. Celebrate the Profession and the Professionals in the world of Finance with Rohit Agarwal, Tech Entrepreneur, ex-CFO, and ex-investment banker. These unsung heroes mostly remain under the limelight but contribute tremendously towards company building. We endeavor to unpack their journeys to understand what moves them, get inspired by their triumphs, learn from their experiences, and, most of all, connect with them at a personal level. https://www.strategyoffinance.com/
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1 EP 032 - Building Procurement at Tech Companies with Michiel de Bruijn, Procurement Lead at Bloomreach 1:21:40
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In this episode, Michiel de Bruijn, a procurement lead at Bloomreach, shares his journey in the field of procurement and discusses the challenges and strategies involved in software procurement. He highlights the importance of understanding the specific needs of the business and aligning procurement objectives with overall business goals. Michiel also emphasizes the significance of cost reduction, turnaround time, and compliance in procurement. Additionally, he explains the complexities of cloud procurement and the need for benchmarking and understanding the metrics and criteria of different cloud providers. Michiel also highlights the need for compliance and privacy considerations when dealing with AI applications. The future of procurement, according to Michiel, lies in direct access to data, community platforms for sharing experiences, and aggregator platforms for standardized pricing and contract terms. He advises aspiring procurement professionals to gain experience through internships and to reach out to industry experts for guidance. Takeaways - Align procurement objectives with overall business goals - Focus on cost reduction, turnaround time, and compliance - Understand the complexities of cloud procurement and the need for benchmarking - Software procurement requires Apple-to-Apple comparisons and benchmarking - Benchmarking is crucial in procurement to ensure fair pricing and transparency - Compliance and privacy considerations are essential when dealing with AI applications. - Managing a multifunctional procurement process requires prioritizing risks and customizing the process accordingly. - Optimizing software contracts involves understanding the scope, documenting requirements, and tracking savings. - The future of procurement includes direct access to data, community platforms for sharing experiences, and aggregator platforms for standardized pricing and contract terms. - Aspiring procurement professionals should gain experience through internships and seek guidance from industry experts. - Success in procurement is defined by making small daily impacts, enjoying the work, and continuously learning and adapting to new challenges. --- Quotes “ Procurement is still such an undersold profession.” “The great thing about the profession is that everything I do is with people, for people, and yeah, so it's very people-oriented.” “Ironically… every crisis for procurement is a good one because like suddenly procurement gets a voice.” “[Cloud spend is] way more about utilization, and optimizing utilization and infrastructure versus the actual negotiation.” “Without benchmarks, you're just kind of standing out in the street naked.” “[As a negotiator] don't change too far away from your personality.” “You're not negotiating with another company, you're negotiating with a person. ” --- Where to find Michiel de Bruijn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meldebruijn/ --- Where to find Bloomreach: Website: https://www.bloomreach.com/en LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bloomreach/ X: https://x.com/bloomreach_tm --- Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitagarwal001/ X: https://x.com/podcast_SoF Email: rohit@strategyoffinance.com --- Sponsor: This show is brought to you by Krayo - the Unified Operating System for Corporate Spend. Krayo is bringing together the whole journey of Corp Spend - Buy > Pay > Manage - into one single platform in an intelligence-first and automated design. We promise to make you more profitable. Visit at https://www.krayo.io/…

1 EP 031 - How to Run a Fortune 500 Company with Srini Phatak, Deputy CFO of Unilever 1:30:58
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In this conversation, Srini Phatak, the Deputy CFO and Controller at Unilever, shares his journey and insights as a finance professional. He discusses the importance of experiencing different parts of the world and embracing middle-class values. Srini also highlights the compelling combination of hunger, humility, and the art of the possible that drives Indian executives to succeed. He emphasizes the significance of trust, confidence, and meritocracy in career progression. Srini provides valuable advice on managing multinational companies, including the importance of understanding the business, people, and culture, as well as making choices and simplifying operations. He also discusses the role of the CFO and the finance function in delivering value creation and sustainable cash flows. The conversation with Srini highlights the importance of focusing on key drivers of business success, such as growth, profit, and cash. He emphasizes the need to go beyond just focusing on outcomes and instead focus on the enablers of those outcomes, such as volume growth, penetration, consumption, and premiumization. Further, Srini discusses the importance of managing risk and making winning choices in business strategy. He explains that risk management is not restrictive, but rather a growth enabler. Additionally, Srini shares insights on organizational design, talent management, and the role of finance in driving value creation. Srini also talks about the importance of understanding consumer habits and preferences in the CPG industry and how they influence brand strategy and innovation. He shares insights on building a strong organizational culture and the balance between global and local cultures. Srini defines success as creating an impact in the business and with people, making a difference in external communities, and making suitable work-life choices. Takeaways - The combination of hunger, humility, and the art of the possible drives Indian executives to succeed. - Trust, confidence, and meritocracy play a crucial role in career progression. - Understanding the business, people, and culture is essential for managing multinational companies. - Making choices, simplifying operations, and delivering value creation and sustainable cash flows are key responsibilities of the CFO and the finance function. Focus on the key drivers of business success: growth, profit, and cash. - Identify and focus on the enablers of the outcomes, such as volume growth, penetration, consumption, and premiumization. - Risk management is not restrictive, but a growth enabler. - Make winning choices in business strategy by considering the opportunities and risks involved. - Finance plays a crucial role in driving value creation by providing a holistic view of the business and being a co-pilot to business partners. - Attract and retain talent by offering challenging opportunities, personalized development plans, and a stimulating work environment. - Use data and trends to inform decision-making and prioritize where to invest time and resources. - Identify and prioritize key risks in your business and develop robust plans to address them. - Understand consumer habits and preferences to inform brand strategy and innovation. - Build a strong organizational culture that aligns with the company's values and purpose. - Define success by the impact you create in the business and with people, making a difference in external communities, and making suitable work-life choices. --- Quotes "Strategy - Where to play, how to win?" "I (am) a product of many Indias." "I'm a product of education." "The story of India is the story of Indian executives." "India has truly arrived, our best is yet to come." "Running a business, is a team sport." "What failure and setback teach you. Success doesn't." "Careers are marathons, careers is not a sprint." "Not the results. How you go about and what you do is equally and sometimes more important than just the results." "When you had a new opportunity and it was only two criteria. Is there somewhere which I am going to learn and make any difference? And is that an opportunity to create an impact?" "If there are the CEO and the CFO for making tons of decisions, then there is an organization which is off-catered." "There is an element of price and mix because end of the day you also need to make sure that you are able to command the right price premium because you also significantly invest behind your brands." "Risk management is misunderstood and seen as something restrictive and defensive." "You can't map all the risks and try and address all of them." "The relevance of brands, customer choices, consumer choices, preferences, trends, that's really the lifeline of a business." "In day-to-day business, there isn't a right answer or a wrong answer. There is always what I would call classically an evaluation of the upside and the cost of trying to realize that upside." "Have the hunger, but also have the humility." "You can't stretch a brand completely into different functional space, into value space and benefit space indefinitely." "It's really about the impact that you can create with the business, impact you can create with the people. And if you can go and make a bigger difference to some communities. If you can, I think it's great." "Be open to experiences, be open to doing different things. Go and seek out and do the difficult jobs early on in your life. Don't take the easy way out." --- Where to find Srini Phatak: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/srinivas-phatak-3aa954/ --- Where to find Unilever: Website: https://www.unilever.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unilever/ X: https://x.com/Unilever --- Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitagarwal001/ X: https://x.com/podcast_SoF Email: rohit@strategyoffinance.com…
The Importance of Decisions in Business In the fast-paced world of business, decision-making is a critical skill that can significantly impact an organization's success. However, contrary to common belief, effective decision-making isn't about making numerous choices daily but rather focusing on making fewer, yet more impactful decisions. Let's explore the nuances of decision-making in business and why it's essential to prioritize and perfect this process. Evaluating Upside and Cost In business, decisions are rarely about finding a single "right" or "wrong" answer. Instead, it's about evaluating the potential upside and the associated costs of realizing that upside. This means that every decision should be weighed carefully, considering both the benefits and the risks involved. For instance, when evaluating a new market entry, the decision isn't just about the potential revenue but also about the costs and risks, such as regulatory challenges, competition, and operational complexities. The key is to balance these factors to make informed decisions that align with the organization's strategic goals. The Paradox of Decision Quantity A common misconception in large organizations is that more decisions equate to better management. However, making too many decisions can stifle innovation and hinder the organization's agility. In reality, successful organizations empower their teams to make decisions at various levels, reducing the burden on top leadership and fostering a culture of autonomy and responsibility. As a leader, it's crucial to focus on fewer, but more significant decisions. These are the strategic choices that have far-reaching implications for the organization's direction and success. By concentrating on the big decisions, leaders can ensure they have the time and resources to make these choices thoughtfully and effectively. The Role of Objectivity Objectivity is a cornerstone of effective decision-making. Leaders must bring a balanced and unbiased perspective to the table, especially when making critical decisions. This involves gathering relevant data, considering diverse viewpoints, and analyzing the situation from multiple angles. Objectivity also means being aware of cognitive biases that can cloud judgment. By fostering an environment where facts and evidence take precedence over personal opinions or preconceived notions, leaders can make more rational and well-informed decisions. Enabling Conversations A significant portion of a leader's role is to facilitate and enable meaningful conversations around important decisions. This involves creating a collaborative environment where team members feel comfortable sharing their insights and concerns. By engaging in open dialogues, leaders can harness the collective intelligence of their teams to arrive at better decisions. Enabling conversations also means breaking down silos within the organization. Cross-functional collaboration can provide a more comprehensive view of the potential impacts of a decision, leading to more holistic and effective outcomes. Making Big Decisions Right Ultimately, the goal is to ensure that the big decisions are made correctly. This requires a deliberate and structured approach to decision-making. Leaders should: 1. Define the Decision: Clearly articulate the decision that needs to be made, including its scope and significance. 2. Gather Information: Collect relevant data and insights from various sources to inform the decision. 3. Evaluate Alternatives: Consider multiple options and weigh their potential upsides and costs. 4. Engage Stakeholders: Involve key stakeholders in the decision-making process to gain diverse perspectives. 5. Make the Decision: Commit to a decision based on a thorough evaluation of the available information. 6. Monitor and Adjust: After implementing the decision, continuously monitor its outcomes and be prepared to make adjustments as necessary. Conclusion In business, the importance of decisions cannot be overstated. Effective decision-making is not about the quantity of decisions but the quality and impact of the ones made. By focusing on fewer, more significant decisions and approaching them with objectivity and collaboration, leaders can guide their organizations towards sustainable success. Remember, making the right big decisions is what truly matters in driving organizational growth and achieving strategic objectives.…
In a recent podcast episode, Rohit Agarwal and Jean-Manuel Izaret (JMI) dived into a pressing question on many minds today: "Is AI going to take our jobs?" Their conversation illuminated an often-overlooked aspect of AI's impact on employment – pricing models. The Current AI Landscape AI technologies have undeniably transformed various sectors, performing tasks that were once exclusively human domains. With the advent of advanced AI models like ChatGPT-4, which can mimic human conversation and perform numerous functions, the anxiety surrounding job displacement is understandable. However, JMI offers a nuanced perspective by examining how these technologies are priced. Two Primary AI Pricing Models Per Token Model: This model is commonly associated with AI services like ChatGPT, where usage is measured and billed based on the number of tokens (or units of text) processed. This model doesn't directly correlate to replacing human jobs but rather complements human capabilities by offering an efficient way to handle large volumes of data and tasks. Per User Model: Seen in AI tools like Copilot, this model charges based on the number of users. According to JMI, this pricing structure inherently supports human workers rather than replacing them. The rationale is simple: if AI were designed to replace humans entirely, the user base would shrink, leading to reduced revenue for AI companies. Therefore, as long as AI is priced per user, its role is primarily to assist and augment human productivity. The Future: Task-Based Pricing JMI predicts a significant shift in AI's role in the workforce when pricing models evolve to focus on tasks or outcomes rather than users. This change would signal AI's capability to fully replace specific human tasks, charging for the efficiency and productivity achieved without human intervention. In this scenario, AI wouldn't just enhance human work; it would render certain human roles redundant. Implications for the Workforce The current per-user pricing model suggests that AI is not yet at a point where it can entirely replace human labor across the board. However, even with this model, some level of job displacement is inevitable as companies seek efficiencies and cost savings. The key takeaway from JMI's insights is the importance of monitoring AI pricing strategies as indicators of broader shifts in the labor market. Preparing for Change Businesses and employees must stay vigilant and adaptable in this evolving landscape. Understanding AI pricing models can provide a clearer picture of how and when certain job roles might be at risk. Emphasizing continuous learning and skill development will be crucial for workers to remain relevant and competitive. In conclusion, while AI continues to advance and integrate into various sectors, the immediate threat of widespread job displacement may be overstated, given current pricing models. However, as these models evolve, so too will the impact of AI on the workforce. Staying informed and prepared will be essential for navigating this dynamic and ever-changing landscape.…
Rethinking Risk Management: A Strategic Approach Risk management is often misunderstood as a restrictive and defensive practice. Many view it as a hindrance, focusing on the negatives and potential failures. However, this perspective misses the broader, more strategic role that risk management plays in driving success. Let's explore a more integrated and proactive approach to risk management. The Importance of Taking Risks Taking risks is essential for achieving higher returns. In every decision we make, whether it's choosing to act or to abstain, we are inherently taking risks. Avoiding risk entirely is not only impractical but also counterproductive. To succeed and achieve significant growth, it is crucial to embrace risk as an integral part of the decision-making process. Integrating Risk Management Instead of treating risk management as a checklist item at the end of a proposal, it should be viewed as a fundamental aspect of strategic planning. By thinking about risk management from the outset, we can identify and address potential challenges proactively. This approach allows us to balance risk and opportunity effectively, leading to better outcomes. Consider the following reframed approach: 1. Identify Opportunities: Start by clearly defining your goals. For example, if your objective is to attract more consumers, increase prices, or achieve cost savings, articulate these targets upfront. 2. Assess Necessary Risks: Once the goals are set, determine what risks need to be managed to achieve these objectives. Instead of asking, "What if this goes wrong?" focus on "What do we need to do to make this work?" 3. Develop a Risk Management Strategy: With the opportunities and associated risks identified, create a comprehensive strategy to manage these risks. This includes mitigating potential downsides while leveraging opportunities for growth. Reframing the Risk Question The traditional approach to risk management often centers on the fear of failure. This mindset can stifle innovation and progress. Instead, we should reframe our thinking: Old Question: "If I price up, there is a risk." New Question: "I want to gain more consumers and increase prices. What does it take to get there, and what risks do we need to manage?" By shifting the focus from fear to opportunity, we create a more positive and proactive environment. This encourages taking calculated risks that drive growth and innovation. The Role of Leadership Effective risk management requires strong leadership. Leaders must foster a culture that embraces risk as a natural and necessary part of achieving success. This involves encouraging open discussions about potential risks and opportunities, promoting a balanced view of risk-taking, and supporting teams in developing robust risk management strategies. Conclusion Risk management should not be seen as a restrictive or defensive practice. Instead, it should be an integral part of strategic planning, focused on balancing risk and opportunity. By taking a proactive and integrated approach to risk management, we can unlock new opportunities for growth and success. Remember, every decision involves risk. The key is to manage these risks effectively to achieve your objectives. Embrace risk, reframe your questions, and lead with a balanced approach to risk management. This strategic mindset will help you navigate challenges and drive your organization forward.…

1 EP 030 - Unpacking Trust, Fairness and Value in Pricing with JMI, Senior Partner at BCG 1:53:26
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In this episode, Rohit Agarwal interviews Jean-Manuel Izaret (JMI), a managing director and senior partner at Boston Consulting Group (BCG), about the strategic importance of pricing in business. JMI shares his background in engineering and how he transitioned to consulting. They discuss the challenges of pricing, the role of pricing in business model innovation, and the alignment of pricing with value creation. JMI emphasizes the importance of understanding costs, customer value, and competition in pricing strategies. He also highlights the different pricing approaches for mature industries, luxury brands, and technology companies. JMI shares his views on impact of product differentiation, why capturing all the value may not be the best strategy, how to think about fair pricing strategy and nuances of dynamic pricing and associated bad reputation. They discuss game theory in pricing, how pricing strategies can vary across different global markets, as cultural perceptions of fairness and pricing differ, and how companies should customize their pricing strategies based on their specific situation and market dynamics. The conversation further explores various topics, including the impact of inflation on prices, the role of AI in pricing, the balance between simplicity and complexity in pricing, and the challenges and lessons learned in strategic pricing projects. The future of pricing is discussed, highlighting trends such as price differentiation and dynamic pricing. Takeaways - Pricing is a strategic lever that can change the trajectory of a business and industry. - Understanding costs, customer value, and competition is crucial for effective pricing strategies. - Different industries require different pricing approaches, such as cost-plus pricing, value-based pricing, or pricing to scale. - Pricing should align with value creation and capture, enhancing both customer satisfaction and profitability. - Pricing is a cross-functional discipline that requires collaboration between finance, marketing, and sales. - Companies should consider pricing as an integral part of their business strategy and align it with their value proposition. Capturing all of the value may make customers indifferent between you and your competitors. - Sharing value and creating a fair pricing strategy is important for building long-term relationships with customers. - Dynamic pricing can be effective when implemented correctly, but it requires careful communication and justification. - Game theory pricing can be effective in situations with few competitors, but it requires understanding the dynamics between competitors and finding an equilibrium. - Pricing strategies can vary across different global markets, as cultural perceptions of fairness and pricing differ. - Companies should customize their pricing strategies based on their specific situation and market dynamics. Inflation can impact prices, and people's willingness to pay higher prices can contribute to price stability. - AI models are currently priced per user, indicating that they are here to help rather than replace humans. When AI models are priced per task or outcome, it may indicate a shift towards replacing humans. - Adding complexity to pricing models can be advantageous for sellers, but companies should be careful not to push it too far, as it can lead to customer dissatisfaction and the emergence of competitors offering simpler pricing. - Strategic pricing projects require leaders who are open to radical decisions, willing to ask the right questions, and accept the answers from their team. - The future of pricing may involve more price differentiation, dynamic pricing, and the use of AI to manage complexity. --- Quotes “People underestimate the strategic side of pricing.” "Pricing is a cross-functional discipline." “Humility and being reminded about everything you can learn is always a good thing.” “The technology industry itself has seen a lot of emphasis on pricing and packaging and the connection between defining the products and defining their prices as a discipline.” “Companies like Salesforce.com or Uber made their entire business on a new pricing model.” “Pricing differently was the source of the innovation, essentially, with software as a service.” “I should price based on my own economics. So I need to understand my costs. That's aspect one. I should price based on what the customers value. What are they willing to pay? And I should price based on competitors and what they are charging. There are three things and you could price based on all of these three and the combination thereof.” “Essentially, prices are the way to trust that the money you spend or the money you get when you sell something is a good money, is the right amount.” “Strategy is just a branch of pricing. That in order to have a good strategy, you need to first have good pricing.” “Capturing all the value is usually not the right thing.” “If you capture all of the value, usually you make your customers indifferent between you and the others.” "Sharing value is giving you an incentive for you to buy my product." “You and I are better off when I sell you something. That's really fundamental principle of society.” "The optimum share of the value even for unique products is between 50 and 60% share." “Dynamic pricing gives different prices at different times to different people.” “Game theory is the fact that when you have very few competitors, looking at where everybody is pricing can really determine the prices much more than the demand.” “Most companies tend to overestimate elasticity.” “Pricing right can really determine the outcome of your business.” --- BCG Pricing resource: https://view.ceros.com/boston-consulting-group/game-changer-pricing-interactive/p/1 --- Where to find JMI: Website: https://www.izaret.net/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/izaret/ X: https://x.com/izaret --- Where to find Boston Consulting Group (BCG): Website: https://www.bcg.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/boston-consulting-group/ X: https://x.com/BCG --- Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitagarwal001/ X: https://x.com/podcast_SoF Email: rohit@strategyoffinance.com --- Sponsor: This show is brought to you by Krayo - the Unified Operating System for Corporate Spend. 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1 SoF CLIPS | Why Indian Executives are so Successful Globally? with Srini Phatak, Deputy CFO of Unilever 1:23
Why Indian Executives are So Successful Globally? The global success of Indian executives is a phenomenon that has garnered significant attention in recent years. As India emerges as a major player on the world stage, its executives are increasingly occupying top positions in leading global corporations. But what drives this success? Let's delve into the unique qualities and experiences that set Indian executives apart. The Story of India and Its Executives The journey of Indian executives mirrors the story of India itself. While India has a rich history dating back millennia, the real narrative of its rise in the global arena has been written over the last 25 to 30 years. This period of rapid economic growth and liberalization has not only transformed India but also its business leaders. Indian executives embody the "art of the possible." They are driven by the hope and ambition of what can be achieved. This forward-looking mindset is a key factor in their success, both within India and internationally. Their journey is not just about personal advancement but about pushing the boundaries of what is achievable. Resilience and Adaptability One of the defining characteristics of Indian executives is their resilience. Coming from a country with immense diversity and numerous challenges, they have learned to navigate complex environments with agility. This adaptability is a critical asset in the dynamic and often unpredictable global business landscape. In contrast to many Western executives who may have grown up in more privileged settings with many resources readily available, Indian executives often rise from more modest beginnings. This background instills a sense of determination and a relentless drive to overcome obstacles and seize opportunities. Ambition and Aspiration Indian executives are fueled by high aspirations and a strong desire for growth. The environment they come from is one of intense competition and continuous striving for excellence. This ambition is not limited to personal success but extends to contributing to the growth and progress of their organizations. The rise of Indian executives in global roles also reflects the aspirations of a nation eager to make its mark on the world stage. Their success stories inspire countless others back home and demonstrate that with hard work and vision, one can achieve remarkable heights. A Global Perspective Another factor contributing to the success of Indian executives is their global perspective. Many have pursued education and early career opportunities in different parts of the world, giving them a broader understanding of diverse cultures and markets. This global outlook is crucial in today's interconnected world where businesses operate across borders. Moreover, Indian executives bring a unique blend of Eastern and Western management philosophies. They combine traditional values with modern business practices, creating a balanced approach that resonates well in various cultural contexts. Conclusion The success of Indian executives on the global stage is a testament to their resilience, adaptability, ambition, and global perspective. They represent the dynamic and forward-thinking spirit of a nation that is rapidly transforming and making significant contributions to the world. As India continues to grow and evolve, its executives will undoubtedly play an even more prominent role in shaping the future of global business. Their journey is a source of inspiration and a powerful reminder of the art of the possible.…
What is Strategy? - A Deep Dive into Its Real Essence and Execution In an era where the term "strategy" is ubiquitously tossed around in corporate corridors, its true essence often remains shrouded in ambiguity. Alex, a seasoned strategist, sheds light on the multifaceted nature of strategy, debunking the myth that it’s all about lofty titles without the grind. This comprehensive guide provides insights from Alex's masterclass on strategy, navigating through the misconceptions, the integral role of various teams, and the intricacies of crafting actionable strategies. Basically, you'll get the framework to the eternal question - how to create a business strategy? The Misunderstood Glamour of Strategy Strategy, often perceived as a glamorous echelon reserved for the elite few, is, in reality, a domain fraught with misconceptions. Alex humorously notes the allure of incorporating "strategy" into one’s title, highlighting a widespread corporate fascination. However, he argues this dilutes the concept, inadvertently suggesting that strategic thinking is exclusive to certain roles. This could not be further from the truth. Strategy should permeate every facet of an organization, from finance to HR, necessitating a holistic and inclusive approach. Strategy Across the Board: A Unified Approach The conversation with a CFO revealed an insightful perspective: every team within an organization should imbue their operations with strategic thinking. This is not to say that every department needs to operate in isolation under the "strategy" banner but rather, strategic finance and other functions should collaborate closely, ensuring that every action aligns with the broader business objectives. Alex emphasizes that true strategy intertwines operations, finance, and strategic planning, far from the hands-off approach some might assume. He shares examples from his own career where the most impactful strategic roles involved a deep engagement with the operational and financial aspects of the business, contrary to the misconception of strategy as a purely abstract exercise. Good Strategy vs. Bad Strategy: The Differentiator At its core, the efficacy of a strategy hinges on its ability to propel the business forward. Alex outlines the attributes of a well-formed strategy—comprehensive, actionable, and communicable. He stresses the importance of operational integration, where vague directives like "Go big on enterprise" must be dissected into tangible action plans detailing the what, how, and when. The Strategic Role of Finance Alex underlines the pivotal role finance teams play in bridging strategy with operational reality. This synergy between finance and product development underscores the transformative impact of strategic planning when executed with a nuanced understanding of the business’s core offerings. Decentralizing Strategy: A Collective Endeavor Contrary to the notion of centralizing strategy within a dedicated team, Alex advocates for a dispersed approach, encouraging strategic thinking across all levels and departments. He shares insights from Stripe, where a senior leader played the role of a "synthesizer," harmonizing diverse strategic inputs across the company. This exemplifies the value of having strategic liaisons embedded within various functions, fostering a cohesive strategic vision that is reflective of the entire organization’s insights and expertise. Strategy in the Age of Data and Technology In the contemporary business landscape, data and technology play a crucial role in shaping strategy. Alex warns against the pitfalls of basing strategic decisions on anecdotal evidence or hearsay. Instead, he advocates for a data-driven approach, leveraging technology to gather comprehensive insights that inform well-rounded strategies. Moreover, he encourages a first-principles mindset, urging strategists to question the underlying assumptions and innovate beyond mere replication of competitors' tactics. Conclusion: Strategy as a Collective Art Alex's masterclass demystifies strategy, portraying it not as a realm reserved for the select few but as a collective endeavor that demands involvement, critical thinking, and creativity across the organization. Strategy, as unveiled through Alex's insights, is a dynamic and inclusive process, one that thrives on diversity, collaboration, and an unwavering focus on the company's overarching goals.…
In the rapidly evolving landscape of modern business models, companies like Stripe and traditional Software as a Service (SaaS) platforms present a fascinating study in contrasts and comparisons. Having had the opportunity to delve into the inner workings of Stripe, a leading fintech company, it's clear that both fintech and SaaS models offer unique advantages and face distinct challenges. Here's a closer look at the dynamics, complexities, and opportunities each model holds. The Profitability Conundrum SaaS companies enjoy incredibly strong margins, primarily due to their recurring revenue streams. The path to profitability for these businesses is relatively straightforward, with inefficiencies, lack of product appeal, or heavy investment in growth being the main hurdles. On the flip side, fintech companies like Stripe operate on a different spectrum of financial dynamics. The margins in payment processing are notably thin, squeezed by the fees paid to partners such as Visa and MasterCard. This leaves a much smaller slice of the pie for the company after transactions are processed, highlighting the inherently low-margin nature of the payments industry. TAM (Total Addressable Market) Challenges and Opportunities The Total Addressable Market (TAM) represents a critical factor for growth potential in both sectors. For SaaS businesses, TAM can often appear as a gold mine at first glance. However, upon closer inspection, companies might find their true market potential (or Serviceable Available Market - SAM) to be considerably less when accounting for realistic customer acquisition prospects. This limitation can significantly cap growth potential and valuation aspirations. Conversely, the fintech space, particularly in payments, boasts an expansive TAM that encompasses a percentage of virtually all digital transactions worldwide. For Stripe, this translates into a staggering portion of global GDP, offering a vast playground for growth and expansion. The continuous digitalization of businesses across the globe further augments this TAM, presenting ongoing opportunities for fintech companies to extend their reach and deepen market penetration. Navigating Complexity Transitioning from a finance role in SaaS to one within a fintech giant like Stripe sheds light on the sheer complexity of operating in the fintech space. Stripe's diverse product suite, tailored to myriad countries, market segments, and customer types, underscores the intricate nature of fintech business models. Regulatory, banking, and infrastructural variances across geographies add layers of complexity that SaaS companies seldom encounter. Fintech companies must navigate these challenges while maintaining impeccable reliability and security. The consequences of a breach could be catastrophic, emphasizing the critical importance of these elements in the fintech industry. The operational, regulatory, and security hurdles that fintech companies like Stripe manage are monumental, attesting to the complexity and sophistication required to thrive in this space. Concluding Thoughts The journey through the worlds of fintech and SaaS unveils a landscape filled with both daunting challenges and lucrative opportunities. The business models, while distinct, each possess unique strengths — from SaaS's enviable profit margins to fintech's expansive TAM and inherent scalability. Stripe's success story, amidst the complexities of global payment processing, showcases the potential rewards for companies that can navigate these intricate environments effectively. In essence, the fintech and SaaS sectors offer diverse pathways to growth and profitability, each demanding a tailored strategic approach. For businesses and finance professionals exploring these avenues, understanding the nuanced differences and inherent challenges of each model is crucial. As the digital economy continues to evolve, the lessons learned from companies like Stripe will undoubtedly shape the future of business models across industries.…

1 SoF CLIPS | Key SaaS Metrics - A Practitioners Perspective with Alex Small, Strategy at Stripe 7:38
In the dynamic world of Software as a Service (SaaS), understanding and leveraging the right metrics can be the difference between merely surviving and truly thriving. A particular set of metrics, deeply ingrained in the success stories of all storied SaaS companies, can serve as a beacon for businesses aiming to achieve sustainable growth. Among these, Customer Acquisition Cost (CAC) payback stands out as a crucial metric, but it is just the beginning. This podcast delves into the essential metrics that SaaS businesses should monitor closely, exploring how they intertwine to drive exponential growth. The Paramount Importance of CAC Payback CAC payback, the time it takes for a company to recoup its investment in sales and marketing through the revenue generated, is a fundamental indicator of a business's efficiency and growth potential. An ideal CAC payback period is 12 months or less, indicating a healthy, self-sustaining business model capable of exponential growth. This metric essentially measures the speed at which invested capital can be turned into profitable revenue, allowing for further reinvestment and growth. Beyond CAC Payback: Customer Lifetime Value (LTV) and LTV to CAC Ratio While CAC payback provides immediate insight into the efficiency of sales and marketing spend, understanding the long-term value of customers is equally important. This is where Customer Lifetime Value (LTV) comes into play. LTV measures the total revenue a business can expect from a single customer account throughout their relationship with the company. Comparing LTV to CAC, then, offers a comprehensive view of both the immediate and enduring value of customer acquisition efforts. The LTV to CAC ratio, in particular, is telling of a business's sustainability and profitability. A high ratio indicates that the value derived from a customer significantly outweighs the cost to acquire them, highlighting an efficient and potentially lucrative business model. The Enterprise Sales Perspective: High Value but Long Payback The application and significance of these metrics can vary by sales model. In enterprise sales, for example, a longer CAC payback period is common due to prolonged and expensive sales cycles. However, these accounts often exhibit low churn rates and high potential for expansion, justifying the initial investment. This scenario underscores the necessity of balancing immediate payback concerns with the overarching value and return on investment. The Rule of 40: Balancing Growth and Profitability Another critical metric to consider is the Rule of 40, which assesses a company's health through its growth and profitability. It suggests that the sum of a company's revenue growth rate and profit margin should be 40% or more. This metric helps businesses navigate the trade-offs between investing in growth and achieving profitability, providing a framework for strategic decision-making in different economic conditions. Churn: The Ultimate Health Check Finally, churn rate, the percentage of customers who discontinue their subscriptions within a given period, acts as a comprehensive indicator of a business's health. It reflects not just lost revenue but potential issues with competitive positioning, customer experience, and overall market strategy. Monitoring churn in tandem with the other metrics offers a nuanced understanding of a business's trajectory and areas needing improvement. Integrating Metrics for Holistic Analysis While each metric offers valuable insights on its own, the true power lies in their integration. Understanding the interplay between CAC payback, LTV, the LTV to CAC ratio, the Rule of 40, and churn rate allows businesses to craft a holistic strategy focused on sustainable growth, profitability, and customer satisfaction. This suite of metrics provides a comprehensive framework for assessing a SaaS company's performance, identifying opportunities for optimization, and steering the business toward long-term success. In conclusion, thriving in the SaaS industry requires more than just a great product; it demands a deep understanding of key business metrics and how they interact. By closely monitoring and optimizing these metrics, companies can not only navigate the complexities of the market but also unlock exponential growth and achieve lasting success.…

1 SoF CLIPS | Is 30% SaaS Margins a Mirage? with Alex Small, Head of Strategy & Ops, Central at Stripe 8:22
In the dynamic realm of Software as a Service (SaaS), the pursuit of high EBITDA margins often sparks extensive debate among industry professionals. The question at the heart of this discourse is whether the widely coveted 30% EBITDA margin is a tangible goal or merely an elusive mirage. This discussion unfolds against a backdrop where SaaS markets do not typically produce a singular dominant player but do grant substantial value to market leaders. The Dream of High Margins in SaaS The allure of achieving a 30% EBITDA margin is not unfounded. It stems from the understanding that SaaS, with its recurring revenue model and potential for scalability, inherently offers the promise of robust margins. However, the path to realizing these margins is fraught with challenges, including operational inefficiencies, market misalignment, and the strategic decision to reinvest in growth. Growth vs. Profitability: The SaaS Dilemma The core of the matter lies in the delicate balance between maintaining growth and achieving profitability. It's posited that high profitability, especially margins as ambitious as 30%, might necessitate a slowdown in growth for medium-sized and semi-mature SaaS businesses. This trade-off emerges from the strategic choices companies face: reinvest earnings to fuel growth or prioritize immediate profitability. Historically, SaaS businesses have leaned towards reinvestment, driven by the belief that the value derived from growth exceeds the immediate returns from high margins. This approach is underpinned by the sector's overall positive outlook, encouraging companies to double down on expanding their market presence and product offerings. A Closer Look at Real-World Examples By examining real-world scenarios, such as companies that have managed to strike a balance between growth and positive EBITDA margins, it becomes evident that high profitability is not entirely out of reach. However, this balance is often a result of strategic decisions that prioritize long-term growth over short-term profitability metrics. The critical consideration is whether aiming for high margins would deter a company's ability to innovate and compete, especially in a landscape that continually evolves with advancements in technology. Investor Expectations and Strategic Decision-Making Investor influence plays a significant role in shaping the strategies of SaaS companies, particularly public ones. The pressure to meet quarterly expectations can sometimes skew priorities towards short-term gains rather than long-term viability and market leadership. This tension between investor expectations and strategic long-term planning highlights the complexity of navigating the SaaS business environment. The Imperative of Continuous Innovation The conversation also underscores the importance of continuous investment in research and development. Staying at the forefront of technological advancements—be it through AI, cloud computing, or other emerging technologies—is paramount for sustaining growth and remaining competitive. The necessity of balancing capital allocation with the imperative to innovate presents a perennial challenge for finance and strategy professionals within SaaS organizations. The Role of Finance in Shaping SaaS Success Finally, the role of finance in evaluating and guiding investment decisions towards high ROI projects is crucial. The collaborative efforts between finance and other departments, such as product development and strategy, are vital for crafting scenarios that maximize both growth and profitability. This multidisciplinary approach is essential for navigating the uncertainties of market demand, technological shifts, and competitive dynamics. Conclusion The pursuit of 30% EBITDA margins in the SaaS industry is a complex endeavor, intertwined with strategic choices between fueling growth and realizing profitability. While not unattainable, achieving such high margins requires a nuanced understanding of market dynamics, investor expectations, and the continuous need for innovation. As SaaS companies navigate this landscape, the wisdom lies in balancing these competing priorities to ensure long-term success and sustainability.…
In this insightful podcast clip, Srini Phatak, Deputy CFO and Controller of Unilever, shares his personal definition of success and offers practical advice on how to achieve it. Srini emphasizes that success is not solely defined by titles or salaries but by the impact you create in your business and with the people around you. He discusses the importance of balancing work and personal life, managing energy and emotions, and embracing challenges and setbacks. Whether you're an emerging professional or a seasoned leader, Srini's wisdom provides a valuable roadmap for a fulfilling and impactful career. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of what true success means! #Success #CareerAdvice #Leadership #Podcast…

1 SoF CLIPS | How to Succeed in Finance? Secrets Revealed by Srini Phatak, Deputy CFO of Unilever 2:46
In this insightful podcast clip, Srini Phatak, Deputy CFO and Controller of Unilever, shares his expert advice on how to succeed in the world of finance. Discover the four key roles every finance professional must master: Strategist, Catalyst, Operator, and Steward. Learn why adaptability, strategic thinking, and strong leadership are essential for climbing the corporate ladder in finance. Tune in to gain valuable insights on making a significant impact in your finance career and standing out as a leader. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from one of the industry's top experts! #Finance #CareerSuccess #Leadership #Podcast…

1 EP 029 - Demystifying Artificial Intelligence - AI 101 with Harsh Joshi, Founder & CEO at DAO Studio 1:25:22
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In this episode, Harsh Joshi, founder and CEO of DAO Studio, discusses artificial intelligence (AI) and its applications. He shares his background in the AI space and the projects he has worked on. Harsh explains that AI is the process of making a system learn certain behaviors and respond accordingly. He discusses the integration of hardware and software in AI systems and the importance of neural networks as function approximators. Harsh also touches on the concepts of pre-training and fine-tuning in AI models, as well as the use of large language models (LLMs) and diffusion models for image and text generation. He explains the role of RAG (retrieval augmented generation) in AI architectures and the challenges of prompt engineering, MLOps, and AIOps. The adoption of AI in businesses is still limited due to several reasons, including controllability, explainability, and decomposability. These fundamental problems hinder the ability to ensure quality assurance, governance, and liability. Privacy is another concern that businesses struggle with when deploying AI systems. Open source models are gaining popularity in the AI space because they provide transparency, collaboration, and the ability to iterate and improve. However, open source initiatives by big corporates are driven by economic opportunities rather than social benefits. The deployment of AI at scale requires a collaborative approach involving subject matter experts, product teams, software engineers, and finance teams. YOJN.ai, a product by DAO Studio, aims to simplify AI deployment, improve transparency, and provide control and fine-tuning capabilities. CFOs and finance teams can benefit from YOJN by gaining better visibility into costs, returns, and modeling, as well as ensuring transparency in pricing and deployment. Takeaways - AI is the process of making a system learn certain behaviors and respond accordingly. - Neural networks are used as function approximators in AI systems. - Pre-training and fine-tuning are techniques used in AI models. - Large language models (LLMs) and diffusion models are used for image and text generation. - RAG (retrieval augmented generation) is a technique used in AI architectures. - Controllability, explainability, and decomposability are fundamental problems that hinder the adoption of AI in businesses. - Privacy is a concern for businesses when deploying AI systems. - Open source models are gaining popularity in the AI space due to transparency, collaboration, and the ability to iterate and improve. - The deployment of AI at scale requires collaboration between subject matter experts, product teams, software engineers, and finance teams. - YOJN.ai simplifies AI deployment, improves transparency, and provides control and fine-tuning capabilities for CFOs and finance teams. --- Quotes "AI is more of a marketing term, but if you think about it, it's about making systems learn behaviors and respond to stimuli." "When you talk about artificial intelligence, it’s all about making systems intelligent and the challenge is, can these systems self-learn?" "The AI systems that are all the rage today, which scale well and generalize well, are neural networks, which are essentially function approximators." "The whole idea of thinking hardware separate, software separate doesn’t really make sense when you’re talking about artificial intelligence." "The magic of AI lies in its ability to approximate functions and form decision boundaries within data." "Prompt engineering is a field that's gonna go away as fast as it has come." "I don't think prompt engineering actually moves any significant needle." "The challenge with AI systems is that they are not decomposable or deterministic, making them difficult to control and explain." "Open source is the new favorite word of the day for every company, and everyone has their selfish motives around it." "Privacy will always be a problem, and it should be. It's all for the good reasons." "With AI, your entire business would need to be involved because it's not just a research problem, it's a business problem in the end." "The difference between you calling your engineer to show a demo to your board members and your AI system being consumed daily by your customers is MLOps." "The first step of governance is being able to explain something; without explainability, you cannot govern it." "As AI systems evolve, there will be a continuous focus on reliability and better QA systems to really take advantage of AI." "You won't create a good AI system in one day. It's an iterative approach that requires the involvement of the entire business." "AI applications are all about the context; if the context is gone, it's just garbage in, garbage out." --- Where to find Harsh Joshi: Website: https://www.daostudio.in/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/getharsh/ X: https://x.com/getHarshOnline --- Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitagarwal001/ X: https://x.com/podcast_SoF Email: rohit@strategyoffinance.com --- Sponsor: This show is brought to you by Krayo - the Unified Operating System for Corporate Spend. Krayo is bringing together the whole journey of Corp Spend - Buy > Pay > Manage - into one single platform in an intelligence-first and automated design. We promise to make you more profitable. Visit at https://www.krayo.io/…

1 EP 028 - How to Build a Profitable Business with Rocky Lalvani, Advisor and Profit First Consultant 59:41
Rocky Lalvani, an advisor to small and medium-sized businesses, shares his insights on the Profit First method and how it can be applied to businesses of all sizes. He emphasizes the importance of focusing on profitability and making profit a driver rather than an afterthought. Lalvani explains that Profit First involves allocating money for specific purposes, such as profit, owner's pay, taxes, and operating expenses. By doing so, businesses can ensure that they have the cash flow to support growth and make informed investment decisions. He also highlights the need to measure and track the return on investments and the importance of understanding the cash flow implications of scaling a business. Lalvani also highlights the need for entrepreneurs to make hard choices and let go of employees or projects that are not driving profit. He explains how these principles can be applied in different business situations, including during market dislocations or crises. Additionally, Lalvani discusses the intersection of spirituality and business, emphasizing the importance of living in alignment with one's beliefs and values. Takeaways - Profit should be a driver in business, not an afterthought - Allocate money for profit, owner's pay, taxes, and operating expenses - Measure and track the return on investments - Understand the cash flow implications of scaling a business Focus on profit from the start and manage cash flow effectively - Make hard choices and let go of employees or projects that are not driving profit - Apply profit first principles in different business situations, including during market dislocations or crises - Explore the intersection of spirituality and business and live in alignment with one's beliefs and values --- Quotes “I think in many cultures, people don't talk about money. It's a taboo subject. People don't ask questions about money.” “I was shocked to learn that business owners were really bad with money.” “I don't believe in grinding it out.” “As a kid, I just knew I wanted to be wealthy. And so I would read and learn and figure stuff out.” “Why don't we do sales minus profit equals expenses. Now, profit is the driver and we constrain our expenses.” "Profit First makes sure that the taxes are there, the profits there, your pay is there, and that you're appropriately taking the right amount of money out of the company." "Growth requires cash. And if you don't know how much cash you need to grow your business, you can grow your business and quadruple it and run out of cash." “Most bookkeeping is not up to date. It's always behind... So this bank account shows you how much cash came in. And at the end of the day, that's what matters.” “Business owners are resourceful. The problem is they're also lazy.” “The problem is the P&L doesn't equal cash.” “Wealth is built on the balance sheet and it's an area nobody talks about.” “Hoping and dreaming are not profit levers.” “One of the top reasons for bankruptcy is scaling and growth.” “As long as cash is flowing, you can keep going.” “Everyone wants complicated solutions… Just do simple.” “We do a lot with marketing because it is the number one wasted area of money.” “Don't talk, do. Show me your actions.” --- Where to find Rocky Lalvani: Website 1: https://profitcomesfirst.com/ Website 2: https://richersoul.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocky-lalvani/ X: https://twitter.com/rockylalvani --- Where to find Rohit: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohitagarwal001/ X: https://x.com/podcast_SoF Email: rohit@strategyoffinance.com --- Sponsor: This show is brought to you by Krayo - the Unified Operating System for Corporate Spend. Krayo is bringing together the whole journey of Corp Spend - Buy > Pay > Manage - into one single platform in an intelligence-first and automated design. We promise to make you more profitable. Visit at https://www.krayo.io/…
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