Building for application developers (Interview)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Anurag Goel, Founder/CEO of Render, joins Adam to discuss what they’re doing to solve cloud problems for application developers. They just raised $80M they don’t even need and they’re poised to solve boring problems like object storage, and less boring things like building for the AI era.

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Featuring:

• Anurag Goel – LinkedIn, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• $80M to reimagine the cloud for the AI era
• Changelog Interviews #621: Building the developer cloud with Kurt Mackey (CEO of Fly)

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1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Retool (00:01:12)

https://retool.com/changelog

3. Start the show! (00:03:58)

4. Imminent threat, but not facing Goliath (00:11:15)

5. Two pizza teams (00:18:36)

6. Legacy cloud vs complex cloud (00:23:08)

7. Being in it together (00:27:18)

8. Focused on solving problems and growing revenue (00:30:20)

9. Sponsor: Sentry (00:32:35)

https://sentry.io/

10. Reinventing your job over and over (00:34:39)

11. Playing with AI via a gaming PC (00:44:32)

12. Spending $20M on GPUs (00:53:16)

13. Building a retry world (00:54:36)

14. Friendly neighborhood CEO (00:58:58)

15. Did you need the $80M? (01:00:19)

16. Sponsor: Temporal (01:15:54)

https://temporal.io

17. Where do you go from here? (01:17:58)

18. Examining the Render org chart (01:23:01)

19. How deep shoudl we go? (01:31:59)

20. Enjoying that series C legitimacy (01:38:00)

21. The better new heroku? (01:42:01)

22. The cloud is BIG and there's lots of room (01:44:32)

23. Giving application developers what they want (01:47:09)

24. Wrapping up (01:48:44)

25. Closing thoughts and stuff (01:49:35)

26. ++ Teaser (01:51:40)