Rails is having a moment (again) (Interview)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

(Includes expletives) David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH), creator of Ruby on Rails and co-owner of 37signals, joined the show to discuss this Rails moment and renewed excitement for Rails. We discuss hard opinions, developers being cooked too long in the JavaScript soup, finding developer joy, the pros and cons of the BDFL, the ongoing WordPress drama with WP Engine, and what’s to come in Rails 8.

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Featuring:

• David Heinemeier Hansson – GitHub, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• Rails World 2024 Keynote - David Heinemeier Hansson
• What’s New in Ruby on Rails 8
• Rails is leaning hard into SQLite right now
• The Empowered Programmer (Justin Searls) - Rails World 2024
• Kamal - Deploy web apps anywhere
• LiteFS - Distributed SQLite
• Turso - libsql
• RubyGems.org
• Automattic is doing open source dirty
• Matt’s “Response to DHH”
• Capture less than you create
• My Freedom of Speech
• Open Source and Power with Matt Mullenweg (Rework podcast)
• Breaking Camp
• Our cloud-exit savings will now top ten million over five years

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1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Fly.io (00:01:20)

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3. Start the show! (00:04:06)

4. Say 5 nice things about JavaScript (00:07:15)

5. What is JavaScript soup? (00:09:37)

6. #NoBuild (00:14:10)

7. Rails' beliefs (00:21:19)

8. SQLite is new again (00:35:49)

9. Sponsor: Speakeasy (00:45:23)

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10. No PaaS required. (00:46:16)

11. Turso is cool (01:07:43)

12. What if DHH goes on a bender? (01:10:25)

13. Nothing lasts forever (01:17:34)

14. Sponsor: WorkOS (01:19:36)

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15. Sponsor: Unblocked (01:22:52)

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16. Almost canceled. (01:24:55)

17. Rails with a green hacker heart (01:31:11)

18. David, you're doing it wrong. (01:33:59)

19. Don't force me bro (01:39:43)

20. The missing context (01:42:19)

21. OK, Laravel. (01:52:12)

22. Rails 8? (01:56:51)

23. This was fun (01:58:21)

24. Closing thoughts and stuff (01:59:21)

25. BONUS (teaser) !! (02:01:25)