Ep. 197 - The Doctor Is In Series - Information Elicitation

The Social-Engineer Podcast

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.

In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Information Elicitation. We will discuss what it is, why it’s so important to use ‘science-based interviewing’, and why approaches that encourage cooperation are better than manipulation of information retrieval. [Feb 6, 2023]

00:00 – Intro

00:20 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro

00:54 – Intro Links

• Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/
• Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
• Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
• Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
• Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
• CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/
• org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/

03:58 – The Topic of the Day: Information Elicitation

05:41 – How does your scientific research affect practitioners?

06:47 – Start with the Brain

07:32 – Elicitation: A Scientific Definition

09:36 – Weaponizing Elicitation

11:17 – It's Easier Than You Think

13:40 – The Perils of Poker Face

16:41 – Being on the Defensive

19:17 – Me, You, and Us

21:28 – The Verbal Approaches

25:16 – Collaboration is Key!

30:37 – An Effective Approach: Subliminal Priming

32:00 – "They'll Become What They're Called"

33:33 – This Applies to Life

35:07 – Make it Conversational

36:56 – The Scharff Technique

40:48 – Forensic vs Clinical

43:23 – Last Week on "24"

45:01 – Tips for the Boss: Shame Doesn't Work

49:41 – This is the Hardest Part

51:46 – Wrap Up & Outro

• social-engineer.com
• innocentlivesfoundation.org

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