This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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This is generally an engineering podcast that often pertains to the world of mining, and especially mining waste management, or whatever else captures my imagination. The episodes, thankfully, will be fairly brief.
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“From The Blockchain" brings you today’s most innovative entrepreneurs and thought leaders to unpack the true potential of smart contract technology, web3, and the digital frontier! Host Ashley Smith is thrilled to have you join today’s top tier community of forward thinking trailblazers. This show brings substance over hype - say goodbye to the noise of NFT and cryptocurrency market speculation. Instead, From The Blockchain aims foster a culture of idea sharing, creativity, and innovation t ...
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Trauma-Informed Growth, Complex Trauma, C-PTSD, and Post-Traumatic Growth from a business-lens. We share Stories, Case-Studies, How-To and go deep into the 5Ws sharing ways to repair, recover and regulate mind, brain, body and business for the highly creative, over achieving crowd.
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Industry Relations Podcast: iOi, NAR's new CEO, the CCP and other letters of the alphabet
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Greg joins Rob from Chicago where he was attending NAR's iOi Summit. Greg gives his experience of being at the iOi Summit and discusses the pitch battle and his favorite new app, Tuesday, and its founder Cole Boyer who won "Crowd Favorite". They go on to discuss NAR's decision to appoint Nykia Wright as their new CEO and if experience in organized …
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Episode 161: A conversation with Assheton Carter
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Assheton is the CEO of TDi Sustainability. TDi Sustainability is a global consulting firm that enables business to thrive while living in harmony with people and planet. From responsible sourcing, auditing, and impact investments at the heart of the mining industry, to risk management, ESG standards, compliance, management systems and bespoke digit…
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Industry Podcast Mash-Up
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Rob and Greg teamed up with James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson from the Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered podcast during the recent Inman Connect Las Vegas event. From the complexities of forms and commission sharing, to the pros and cons of state association forms, the guys got into it. They explored the potential for conspiracy charges in a post-set…
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Ethics and Transparency in Communication
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Are you up to date on the recent changes in MLS rules and buyer agency agreements? In this episode, Rob and Greg dive into the controversy surrounding these updates and discuss the ethical implications for agents. From forgery to enforcement, confusion to challenges, this conversation covers a lot of ground. They shed light on the need for a substa…
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Episode 160: A conversation with Marco Arrieta
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Marco is the Head of the Geotechnical Department at Line Creek Operation of Elk Valley Resource. He is a geotechnical engineer with over 15 years of experience in open pit mining. He is passionate about nurturing the next wave of geotechnical talent and delights in the playful intricacies of granular materials.…
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Episode 159: A conversation with Ryan Sistad
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Ryan is the Executive Director at Better In Our Back Yard. We discuss the many challenges regarding permitting a mine in the US.
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Episode 158: A conversation with Terry Braun
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Terry is President (North America) at SRK Consulting. Terry and I discuss his impressive career and provide advice to the next generation of engineers and scientists.
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Are you a real estate broker or agent grappling with the NAR settlement's requirement for written buyer agreements before showings? Rob and Greg dive deep into the controversy, debating the pros and cons of charging clients and exploring the potential consequences of non-compliance. They also discuss the evolving role of listing agents, the ethical…
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Episode 157: A conversation with Marcelo Llano
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Marcelo is a geotechnical engineer with Red Earth Engineering Pty Ltd, now a part of Geosyntec. In this episode Marcelo discusses a recent paper on compaction.
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Meltdown: Is the End Near?
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The August 17th deadline is almost here, and the industry is abuzz with talk of potential changes to MLSs and associations. Rob and Greg discuss the latest developments in the NAR settlement with the DOJ and its potential impact on compensation models, forms, and client relationships. With disruption looming, they delve into the hot topic of buyer …
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Episode 156: a conversation with Benjamin Neville
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Benjamin Neville is the Managing Director of the Saligna Management Group. He is Australian based, and a standout in project management and leadership. With engineering credentials from Queensland University of Technology and a commitment to continuous improvement, he's led pivotal projects like the CIMIC One HSE Culture Program at UGL/Gryphon Psyc…
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Industry Soup: Why the Human Touch Still Matters
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What happens when industry news is quiet? Industry soup. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss various topics with an effort to draw parallels to real estate. From their weight loss strategies and detailed plan for a 60-day weight loss regimen to Tesla cars and the emotional connection people have with their vehicles. This conversation covers a lot…
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Episode 155: A conversation with Catherine Lalut
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Catherine is an experienced mining engineer with 12+ years in the mining industry, specializing in both underground and open pit operations, and a proven track record of demonstrating strong, effective leadership and team development. Amongst other things, we discuss Catherine's book, "The mine that fell asleep in the Goldfields".…
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Real Estate Forms: Consumer-Friendly or Industry-Driven?
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Are real estate forms truly consumer-friendly or are they just industry-driven? In this episode, Doug Miller and Wendy Gilch, Directors of CAARE (Consumer Advocates in American Real Estate), expose what they believe are the flaws in the current buyer agency agreements. From undisclosed dual agency to lack of cancellation clauses, these forms often …
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The REcolorado Acquisition: A Red Pill Moment for Brokers
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The recent acquisition of REcolorado by private equity firm GI Partners has sent shockwaves through the real estate industry. In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the history of MLS privatization and the tensions between associations and MLSs. They shine a light on the lack of member control and power dynamics within the industry, exposing importa…
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Ethical Considerations: MLS's Role in Regulating Concessions
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Are you confused about the new MLS policy on commission disclosures and concessions? In this thought-provoking discussion, Rob and Greg dive into the challenges and potential solutions for agents and brokers. Learn about the ethical considerations involved in disclosing commissions to clients and renegotiating buyer agency agreements. Plus, gain in…
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The Disconnect in Interpretation
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Are you struggling to understand the NAR settlement agreement and its implications for real estate transactions? Joining us in this thought-provoking episode is Ed Zorn, VP & General Counsel for CRMLS. Rob, Greg, and Ed talk about the disconnect between NAR's understanding and other lawyers' interpretations, and what it means for brokers and agents…
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The Vagueness of the Language and its Implications
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You may have heard the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement, but do you really understand the implications for offers of compensation?In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the recent statements made by Michael Ketchmark regarding the NAR settlement. They analyze the settlement agreement and try to understand the …
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S2:E27 - Suffering: why is it here and what can we do about it with Dr. Andy Hahn, PsyD.
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Dr. Andy Hahn joins me for this episode on suffering. What is it, where does it come from, why is it here and how can we work with it. A conversation inspired by the contents of his book, the 1-Hour Miracle, 5 steps to healing your life and changing the story; a mix of East and West that pulls in kinesiology, energy work, and another lens on PTSD. …
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S2:E26 - Release Trauma, Rewire Brain & Reprogram for Change. This is B.R.A.I.N with Louise Swaltzwater
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A new kind of episode as I agree to be faciltiated, live in a 1-to-1 trauma release session with you listening in. heh. In my first ever, I hit record as Dr. Louise Swartswalter, a Dr of Naturaopathy, Kinesiology, Energy Worker and transformative coach takes the lead. We hear her story about how she arrived in this type of work before she gives you…
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Bravery and Impact of the MLS Stance
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Have you been keeping up with the latest updates in MLS policies? Rob and Greg break down the key details of Bright MLS's clear cooperation policy and NWMLS's decision not to remove compensation data from their system. But it doesn't stop there. They also dive into the potential legal consequences for fair housing violations and federal antitrust c…
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The Potential Implications of Dropping CCP
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Are the rumors true? Is Bright MLS really going to drop the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP)? Rob and Greg explore the potential implications of this decision, and speculate on the motivations behind it and its potential impact on NAR's authority over MLSs. They also talk about the importance of fair housing and transparency in listings, and how this…
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S2:E25 - The Anxiety of Money. This is Trauma, Money and Resolution with Jane Evans
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Jane Evans joins me to discuss one of my favourite topics - Trauma & Money. When it comes to answering some version of the question, "How much" or when we have to put a price on our value, or generate and maintain cashflow, the situation tends to be more white knuckles, than signed on the dotted line. Why? More importantly, What can we do about it?…
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Portal Wars and Raising the Bar at NAR
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Who is winning the portal wars? In this episode Rob and Greg talk about the future of the MLS and debate which company they would bet their life savings on – Zillow, REALTOR.com, or Homes.com. Providing insights into these key players of the industry. They also tackle updates on the NAR settlement and how new technologies are shaping the industry. …
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Walking the Line - Words Matter
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What is the difference between the threat of steering in an illegitimate way and being transparent and informing your client? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss the difference between steering and fiduciary duty in real estate and other various topics including Greg's recent trip to Boston, Redfin's settlement with NAR, the enforcement of buyer …
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Zillow's Touring Agreement and Consumer Experience Simping
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With buyer agreements having to take place before a showing and Zillow’s new touring agreement what will the end consumer experience be? In this episode, Rob and Greg discuss updates on the NAR settlement and Zillow's new touring agreement. They explore the implications of the settlement for big brokers and the role of the MLS policy committee. The…
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Episode 153: A conversation with Joe Scalia
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Joe is an Associate Professor of Civil & Environmental Engineering at Colorado State University. Amongst other things Joe and I discuss cover design and longevity and the need to get more engineering students interested in tailings.
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The $250M Settlement That will Impact the Industry
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HomeServices of America has reached a settlement in the slew of commission lawsuits. Now that a huge domino has fallen, what will happen next in the industry? Rob and Greg discuss the next steps in the commission lawsuits and the potential challenges faced by copycat lawsuits. They also discuss the role of lawyers and the potential opt-out strategy…
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Episode 152: A conversation with Dr. Ashok Ghosh
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Ashok is an Associate Professor, Mechanical Engineering and Adjunct Faculty, Civil Engineering , New Mexico Tech at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. Ashok and I discuss his involvement in green desalination using forward osmosis.
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CoStar Acquires Matterport: The Photography Wars
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How will CoStar’s recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoStar and how Rob and Greg predicted this years ago. How will Zillow respond? And how will other industry giants such as Redfin be affected by this huge announcement? They also talk about Realtor.com's C…
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Episode 151: A conversation with Rens Verburg
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Rens is a Technical Fellow with WSP and a geochemist with more than 30 years of experience in the mining industry.
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Unpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR Settlement
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Join Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for…
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S2:E24 - How Fine Art, Complex Systems & Curiosity Saved My Life. This is Richard’s Story
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In this episode, Richard F. Adams, shares his experience of navigating challenge, mental health, and what happened in 2019 that changed everything. Richard's hindsight presented through his own unique lens, offers rich insights and practical advice alongside a fascinating look at how one comes back from C-PTSD in ways that could be described as bei…
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NAR’s Continuing Legal Battles
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Not one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, an…
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The NAR Settlement Part 2
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Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association…
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S2:E23- The Underbelly of Sex Addiction. This Is Recovery With Rob Watt and Dr. Kirsty Loudon
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This is my first episode inspired by a few listeners who have been in touch with me to share how sex addiction has disrupted, or is disrupting their lives. I went looking for answers only to find two world-class experts in the area of Sex Addiction: Dr. Kirsty Loudon and Rob Watt. Dr. Kirsty, Rob and myself have connected a few times over a couple …
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Episode 150: A conversation with Carlo Cooper
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Carlo is a director at Minebridge Software, the developers of Muk3D.Carlo and I chat about the capabilities of is software and how it's making TSF design simpler and better.
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The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown
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What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlas…
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S2: E22 - I Think I Have C-PTSD, Now What? This Is Recovery With Roseanne Reilly
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Her name is Roseanne Reilly, an Irish woman in NYC, who is a masterful facilitator of individuals with C-PTSD. Her career path moved her through being a nurse, a health & safety educator and trainer, an advanced practitioner of Craniosacral Therapy, and today, a Trauma Informed Practitioner with dozens of qualifications and certifications to her na…
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A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ
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Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the fo…
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S2:E21 - The Ugly Sides To Recovery And The Daily Practice That Brings In the Beauty
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This episode is a more candid look at the uglier sides of recovery as I reflect on the last 10 days or so where I have been all sorts of dysregulated, and then irritated that I am still 'falling down', and the honest look I had to take at what I am 'really' doing about my recovery. As it goes, what I am doing pales in comparison to what I let mysel…
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Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?
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What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the…
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Episode 149: A conversation with Carlos Hubner
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Carlos is the RTFE at the Cobre Panama mine which is owned by First Quantum Minerals. The mine is currently under shutdown orders by the Panamanian government. Carlos and I discuss the challenges of maintaining a tailings facility that is in hiatus.
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S2:E20 - Unpacking: 1. Being In Your Body and 2. Engaging Body Work, To Expedite Healing
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I share the clarity I have gained, some distinctions I've made, and some suggestions on how and where to start. Starting is what matters most here. This is the episode where I unpack two areas that matter a lot when it comes to: healing, recovery and shifting out of the chaos of emotional overwhelm, emotional numbing, and emotional exhaustion, and …
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S2:E19 - This Self Regulation Practice Has Made All The Difference
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An episode that looks at one of the most important tools that I've used to transform my life from chaos and trainwrecks, to calm and having all sorts of fun thriving. 2 years ago I didn't quite get the value of this practice; I read a few books, watched a few videos and gave it a go. Today? I realise if I had it to do all over again - this journey …
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S2:E18 - How Pieces From Our Past Become The Mosaic For Our Future
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Elizabeth Walker, Addiction Recovery Coach joins this episode where we bring out a few distinctions around: what is Supporting the Body, Coming into the Body, and Body Work, along with a look at the consistent stages one moves through to exit the proverbial void, while covering how unique each journey on the path is. Elizabeth shares her journey fo…
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S2:E17 - Highly Successful, Fabulous at Life & Secretly in Despair. This is Zara's Story.
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#CPTSD #MyStory - This is my first episode from the "My C-PTSD Story" theme. Zara Juricic joins me to share her experience of life before she was diagnosed with C-PTSD, what it was like in the early days of the diagnosis, and what life in recovery can feel like. A powerful story from the 'highly successful, fabulous at life, secretly in despair' le…
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Does NAR have a competence problem?
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Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently com…
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S2:E16 - Those Uncomfortable Emotions Are The Way In, If We Are To Find Our Way Out
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I cover a lot of ground in this episode including some real life examples from the past few weeks to set up some new insights on: co-regulation, self-regulation, emotional regulation (or the absence there of - dysregulation) before sharing the practice I am inside of to find my way out, along with a wee stopover to Carl Jung's two cents where he sa…
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