Episode 5: Writing and Addiction

The Watchung Booksellers Podcast

In this episode of the Watchung Booksellers Podcast, authors Warren Zanes and Thad Ziolkowski talk about writing and addiction. From their personal struggles in using drugs while creating art to the complexities in writing about addiction in general, their conversation is thought-provoking, sincere, and often very funny.
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Warren Zanes is the New York Times bestselling author of Dusty in Memphis, the first volume in the celebrated 33 1/3 Series, Petty: The Biography; Revolutions in Sound: Warner Bros. Records; and Deliver Me from Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. With Garth Brooks, Zanes has worked on five books in the artist’s Anthology Series. As a teenager he was a member of the Del Fuegos and made three records for Slash/Warner Bros. Zanes holds a PhD in visual and cultural studies from the University of Rochester and presently teaches at New York University. He is a Grammy-nominated producer of the PBS series Soundbreaking and was a consulting producer on the Oscar-winning documentary 20 Feet from Stardom. He conducted interviews for Martin Scorsese’s George Harrison: Living in the Material World, and served as writer for The Gift: The Journey of Johnny Cash. Zane’s work has appeared in Rolling Stone and the Oxford American, and he has served as Vice President of Education and Public Programs at The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and, for ten years, Executive Director of The Rock and Roll Forever Foundation.
Thad Ziolkowski is the author of Our Son the Arson, a collection of poems, the memoir On a Wave, which was a finalist for the PEN/Martha Albrand Award in 2003, and Wichita, a novel. His most recent book, The Drop, which explores the relationship between surfing and addiction, was published by HarperWave, an imprint of HarperCollins, in 2021. His essays and reviews have appeared in The New York Times, Slate, Bookforum, Artforum, Travel & Leisure, Interview Magazine, 4Columns, and Galerie. He is the recipient of a Guggenheim Fellowship and has a PhD in English Literature from Yale University.
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1. 3:49 Romanticizing Addiction (00:00:00)

2. Writing and Addiction (00:00:11)

3. Writers and Drugs (00:05:47)

4. Exploring Addiction and Surfing Neurochemistry (00:11:32)

5. Books About Neurochemicals (00:17:50)

6. Risks in Writing about Addiction (00:20:54)

7. The Shame of Addiction in Creativity (00:24:55)

8. The Creative Process and Discipline (00:34:19)

9. Breaking Through Addiction (00:45:11)

10. Upcoming Events and Credits (00:51:11)